MultiCharts: Trading Software for Automated Trading and Backtesting

larssan

Thanks.

Do you know if all charts will work in 8.0 after I've been using 8.5?

/Lars

larssan

Hi,

Is there a way of getting free from MC8.5 and go back to 8.0 ?

I tried to install 8.0 but that was not possible once you've installed a newer version...

Any ideas are appreciated as MC8.5 is making it impossible for me to trade.

Thanks, Lars

larssan

I've been using MC for a few years and Rithmic since one year. I autotrade every day using MC on a Windows 2008 server. For about one year this has worked fine without any major disturbances. However, since I updated from MC8.0 the MC and Rithmic combination is a complete failure. I can't list all e...

larssan

Do you know what to search for in the log files ? What I've found so far is: Connectivity to broker (Disconnected) IB: m_connection_checker.isConnected == false OEC: OnDisconnected: Unexpected= 0 Connectivity to broker (Reconnected) IB: m_connection_checker.isConnected == true OEC: Connection to Ope...

larssan

Trading, both live and auto.
That must be the most important feature in a trading software...

Thanks, Lars

larssan

Thanks Katrin.

Do you know if it's possible to also have a script check for the connectivity of data feed and broker ?

Then I could skip the log files search and only use a script for all occurrences.
That might be easier...

Thanks, Lars

larssan

Hi, I auto trade with MC on a server and looking for a way to monitor that everything is running as it should. The easiest way to do that, that I know of is using a log file monitoring software search the log files and have a e-mail or sms sent whenever it finds any errors. My question is if anyone ...

larssan

Hi, In a auto trading code I sometimes move working orders. For example in a trailing stop: var0 = LowestFC( Low, 5 ) ; Sell ( "ChTrLX" ) next bar at var0 stop ; This works fine most of the time but in one specific market it's not possible to move orders. So in order to get the same result as in the...

larssan

Thank you very much!

No problems at all after your educational explanation.

Regards, Lars

larssan

Josh, A follow up question, if you have time. If you would like more values plotted in the indicator like for instance a EMA of "Value1". How should the Spread Indicator be changed ? I tried it myself and I can update the "SendSpreadData" code, but I can't figure out how to send the second data to t...

larssan

Josh,

I've tried it now and it looks perfect!

Again, thank you for the time and effort you put in to this.

Regards, Lars

larssan

(I think I've made an error, but I haven't completely uncovered/solved it. Will update later with more.) I really appreciate it. But there are some issues with tick charts in MC7.1 so your code is probably correct... Regarding the calculation: You said that the last available price in data 2 will b...

larssan

Yes Sir this bug was confirmed . It will be fixed in the next version of MultiCharts. What I have suggested is a possible workaround at the moment. Unfortunately this workaround cannot be applied to all cases. Henry, can you confirm that this is the issue here to ? Or could it be something else ? R...

larssan

Please try to disable the option in the Format indicator window-Skip identical ticks. I've done that but it didn't help. However, I was in contact with support today regarding a similar problem with a tick chart and they told me that it was a bug that would be fixed in a later release. Maybe this i...

larssan

Hi, I've tried it and everything looks great. But, every time a Tick is updated the Spread Indicator goes down to zero. However, the plot on the "SendSpreadData" chart stays correct. I tried with "unticking" the "Update on every tick" box, but the Spread Indicator still goes down to zero after compl...

larssan

Thank you so much for your help!

I didn't think it was possible.

I'll set everything up and try it out...

Thanks, Lars

larssan

Can you tell me, judging from the attached screenshot, if this is what you mean / are looking for? Exactly! :) The calculations are done in Chart B and sent over to Chart A. The indicator will plot in real time on Chart A. (Tick by Tick) How is the calculation done when there is a new tick in Data1...

larssan

A way around the bar spacing, or a way around how the Spread Indicator calculates? I would say both spacing and calculations. What you could do, is use the "All Data Everywhere" (ADE) DLL to plot Data1 and Data2 on Chart A, then create Chart B, and send the data from Chart A to the indicator plotte...

larssan

Hi, I'm trying to plot a relative strength indicator on a tick chart. I use ES as data1 and NQ as data2, then I add the "Spread Ratio" indicator that is basically Data1/Data2. This will work fine with time bars but when using a 600Tick chart the bar spacing will be uneven on the chart. (For obvious ...

larssan

The first order (buy stp 2) is the entry order. The second order (buy stp 1) is the exit order in the opposite direction (reverse). That is why the amount of contracts is doubled-to close the current position and enter a desired position. I agree to that Henry and I understand the logic. However, i...

larssan

Ok, thanks!

I don't think it's a bug and probably it isn't a major issue either.
But I would feel more comfortable with the correct order size though.
So I'm only trying to find a way around it...

larssan

Hi Lars, I'm afraid I don't follow you. The picture does indeed show an 'incorrect' situation, since the highest buy order should be for 2 contracts and not 4. (Btw, how do you get these orders to display on the chart? I only have that display when I use manual chart trading). I do not mean to offe...

larssan

Here is a picture describing the issue using MC built-in strategies "Channel Breakout" and "Channel Trailing" using 1 contract.

/Lars

larssan

Hello, Henry. Hello, Lars. Unfortunately the provided script does not correspond to the screenshots. The order names on the chart are different from ones in the script. It seems to us that Buy Stop order with Volume 4 was not placed by the provided script. Please attach a screenshot of the Order and...

larssan

see below.

larssan

Thanks for helping! escamillo, I would really like the simplicity with multiple codes for buy, sell and stops etc. But if I need to turn them off and on manually it will not work for me. Josh, Thank you for the effort. I changed my code to look like yours. The main difference from my code as I see w...

larssan

Hello, I trade mostly mechanical and so far I have put on trades manually but in order to learn more about programming I was thinking of automate my systems. Some of it I figured out but now I've run in to some problems. When using my "Backtesting" code for automatic trading I found lot of logical e...

larssan

Update: Order was cancelled in PFG but MC does not know about this ( for 40 minutes ). Tresor, The issue has been confirmed. Our engineers are working on it at the moment. Thank you for reporting. This also happens with OEC accounts. The orders get stuck in PreCancelled from time to time. If I Disc...

larssan

- Stop Loss orders are doubled. Right click (on active order) => Attach Exit Strategy => Stop Loss When Stop Loss becomes active the amount of contracts are doubled. So if you're Long one contract and the Stop Loss is hit you're short one contract instead of flat. This bug was confirmed by the suppo...

larssan

Dave,

I'll try it a couple of days and see if I can find exactly when these bugs occurs, then I'll set up a remote connection session.

Thanks.

larssan

larssan, shogun01, MC7 Beta versions prior to Beta5 had some issues with symbol mapping which has been fixed afterwards, however Symbol Mapping settings may need to be changed manually when you run MC 7 release for the first time. Please right click on the broker profile and go to Symbol Mapping di...

larssan

One more: After right-clicking an active order and adding a Stop Loss no Stop Loss is added. If you do it again no Stop Loss is added and if you do it again no Stop Loss is added. Then when order is filled you all of a sudden have three Stop Losses in the market. I'm sorry for all the complaints but...

larssan

Additional bug:

- After adding a Stop Loss to an order the Stop Loss disappears when order is filled.
Resulting in a position open with no Stop Loss.

(If you during that period is going out for lunch you can get a real surprise when you return to the office!)

larssan

All the old chart trading bugs are still the same/worse in MC7. - Stop Loss orders are doubled. - Stop Loss orders are added for no reason - Limit orders are added for no reason - Stop orders are added for no reason - Stop orders are shown as limit orders There's no end to it... I use OEC as broker.

larssan

Hi, There are additional Stop losses showing up on the chart. I had two stop orders placed with one Stop Loss connected to each of them. When one stop order was filled the connected stop loss went active as it should but there was an additional stop loss popping up on the chart and it is not possibl...

larssan

Thanks for the suggestions...

larssan

Hi, I'm trying to create a code for scaling in to a position. After the first entry I want to use the ATR value (of the entrybar) for scaling in the next contract. Something like: Value1 = 1250; if CurrentEntries = 0 then BuyPrice = Value1 ; ATR = AvgTrueRange(14); if CurrentEntries = 0 then begin B...

larssan

Hi, Regarding the new chart trading feature. I use OEC as broker and eSignal for data. The 6E symbol price scale at OEC is showing 144.38 and the eSignal price is 1.4438. So if I'm using eSignal on the chart the order price will be all wrong. Is there a way to fix this ? Regards, Lars It seems that...

larssan

Hi,

Regarding the new chart trading feature.

I use OEC as broker and eSignal for data.

The 6E symbol price scale at OEC is showing 144.38 and the eSignal price is 1.4438.
So if I'm using eSignal on the chart the order price will be all wrong.

Is there a way to fix this ?

Regards, Lars

larssan

Check the logs tab in the OPT. If your mapping is off it should say something like 'No security definition has been found" for the order you tried to send.

Correct, I got a warning when trying to send the order.
I corrected the mapping and now it works.

Thanks!

larssan

You probably don't see the order on the chart when you merge, but when you check your Order and Position Tracker, the order is there. If you use OEC only, you will see the order on the chart. They won't show up in the Order and Position Tracker. Probably my Mapping settings are wrong. We are develo...

larssan

Quote: Alternatively, if you want to trade based on real-time from Pats, simply Merge two data feeds in one chart. Use eSignal for historical, and Pats for real-time. Every time you create or reload a chart, real-time from that moment on will be taken from Pats, and history from eSignal. This sound...

larssan

No, you don't need two charts - that's why we have Symbol Mapping in the Broker Profiles. You simply make a chart of eSignal, and indicate the Pats symbol details in the Mapping - your order for the eSignal chart will be routed to Pats. I've tried this with OEC and I can't get it to work. There are...

larssan

larssan wrote: If I start MC with Patsystems in the morning will the chart be all blank and RT data will start ticking when the software opens ? If you have no data in your local data base, then the chart will be blank. Quote: If I have a couple of hours of RT data on the chart and restarts MC duri...

larssan

Hi, I plan to use Patsystems and according to your info about them they don't provide any historical data. My question is how that actually works. If I start MC with Patsystems in the morning will the chart be all blank and RT data will start ticking when the software opens ? If I have a couple of h...

larssan

I was in contact with the online support and they have investigated and found the issue. It will be corrected in the MC7 Beta5 release. I would like to take the opportunity to thank you for this great software. After used almost all of the major competitors software I can easily say that MC are way ...

larssan

I use Open E Cry. I tried it two more times and the stop is always twice the initial order. If the stop is hit I'm short one instead of flat. Some other issues I have found: 1. When canceling an order it from time to time freezes in "PreCanceled" mode and is still valid. 2. When moving an order on t...

larssan

Ok, thanks for the quick answer. I have tried this on a Demo account and it always worked as you described. Order for 1 contract creates a stop for 1 contract. Today I tried to trade with MC for the first time with my regular live account. Then the stop was doubled to 2 contracts. (I had to manually...

larssan

I try to explain better: 1. I put in a buy stop order for 1 contract. (Drag in "STP") 2. I right click the order and choose "Attach Exit Strategy" => "Stop Loss" => "Place Strategy" 3. Now one buy stop is submitted and one sell stop is inactive until the buy stop is filled. 4. Buy stop (from point 1...

larssan

Hello, Some follow up questions. 1. Is there a reason/limitation for that you can't enter a specific price in "Stop Loss" but you can do it in "Bracket" ? 2. Is there a reason/limitation for that you can put in all figures before you place the order when using "BRK" (OCO) option, but when you use OS...

larssan

Thanks for the quick answer, that was almost was I was looking for. But I don't want to create two new orders, only one. So I tried to attach a "Stop Loss" but it was not possible to put in price, only pip and %. But ok, it's possible to calculate the no. of pips every time you put in an order. Is t...

larssan

Hi,

So I need to make my own code for this ?

It's not a built in feature in MC ?
As the OCO order are. I'ts called BRK (Breakout Strategy) in MC.

My idea was a similar feature but instead of closing the "Held" order it creates it...

I think almost all broker software has both OCO and OSO.

/Lars

larssan

Hi,

Is it possible to use OSO orders with MC ?
As when one order is filled it creates another order.

I found OCO but no OSO...

Regards, Lars

larssan

Here's a code that maybe demonstrates the problem better. inputs: Length( 3 ), NoOfContracts(5) ; if marketposition = 0 then begin Buy ( "Long1" ) NoOfContracts contracts next bar at HighestFC( High, Length ) + 1 point stop ; Sell Short ( "Short1" ) NoOfContracts contracts next bar at LowestFC( Low,...

larssan

Stan, thanks for the updated code. However it does not work. If marketposition = 0 all is good, one buystop and one sellstop is placed correctly. But after one order is filled it still doubles the other order. So if you go long 5 contracts and marketposition > 0 is true you'll find that the stop ord...

larssan

Escamillo, no thats not it. It's a code that is incl. In MC. It's the same code that was in the first post in this thread. It's just to show the problem. You clearly don't understand what the issue here is. It has nothing to do with the code itself, it's all in the posts above. I can't spend any mor...

larssan

Hi, if you can figure it out on the code below it would help a lot. Intrabar or not doesn't matter. Basically what I'm trying achieve is a very simple breakout strategy. One high level and one low level. Buy 1 tick above/below the high/low level and when filled create a stop order at the opposite le...

larssan

Thanks for the tips but this issue has nothing to do with the code itself. The problem here is that the Easy Language code says buy 5 contract and Multicharts creates an order for 10 contracts. It does not matter if you use Market posistion or not. My real code are a bit more complex and I've tried ...

larssan

I got no reply after three days so I changed the subject to something more catchy... As I had spoken to support before posting and they told me that I can't do anything about this issue other than switch to IB as they have some "built-in" safety feature that won't allow double fills. That sounded so...

larssan

Anyone?

larssan

Hi, I have found a strange bug when using stop orders and auto trading. I'll attach the code in the bottom. 1. Say you have a BuyStop for 5 contracts @ 1100 and a SellStop for 5 contracts @ 1050. 2. 1100 is filled and a new SellStop for 5 contracts @ 1051 is generated by the code. 3. Now you should ...

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