MultiCharts: Trading Software for Automated Trading and Backtesting

bowlesj3

I sometimes comment the first if statement as you like to do (after the number I have assigned if I have chosen to do that) then copy the actual if statement down to the very end and have it on the line of the end statement within the {} brackets so I know exactly what if statement it is. This works...

bowlesj3

Interesting idea Janus. They end up looking like well formated statements in other languages which are naturally suited to this style due to the fact that they do not have a "begin" and "end" part of the construct. I agree and the main thing is the end statement is on the same indent column as the i...

bowlesj3

I have revised the subject and the first post.

bowlesj3

Your welcome.

bowlesj3

Removed.

bowlesj3

This thread has evolved into a summary area of potential traps that new users can fall into if they are not aware of them. These are not bugs but rather items that will not likely change for a long time (if ever). It is a series of pointers to threads (or any material for that matter) that contain t...

bowlesj3

That is a high number. I avoid deleting trend lines now (you gave me that idea TJ actually). I find MC gets confused when deleting if two different studies on the same chart are adding new trend lines and also deleting trend lines. It gets mixed up and deletes the wrong one. I believe it is because ...

bowlesj3

Yes, for sure. It is a learning function. LOL, like Star Track "adventuring where no man has dared go before". In the end you will just call it and these strange trend line moves will never occur again. I use to get maybe 10 of these strange moves daily. Now it is down to one so far since I installe...

bowlesj3

Good News. It turns out that the trap I wrote to detect bad moves of the trend line is in fact working. It detected that I was incorrectly placing a vertical trend line pointing down rather than pointing up the way you are suppose to do it (see MC manual under "TL_SetEnd" where it talks about this.)...

bowlesj3

Good News. It turns out that the trap I wrote to detect bad moves of the trend line is in fact working. It detected that I was incorrectly placing a vertical trend line pointing down rather than pointing up the way you are suppose to do it (see MC manual under "TL_SetEnd" where it talks about this.)...

bowlesj3

HI Tresor, I tried it and you are correct. Here is the seq: 1/ I logged in and came to this thread. 2/ I could see all attaches here. 3/ I clicked on my links to the user contributed. 4/ I could see my attachments. 5/ When I come back to this thread I can not see the attachements of others (it says ...

bowlesj3

When I log in I seem to get 1/2 logged in. What this means is I set my settings to remember my log in and I can thus come back in to see my attachments to a post but I do not see the mail available or not available notice unless I go back in and do an actual log in again.

bowlesj3

There is a movetrendline_s now. Since I saw one bad move only over the last few weeks they both have a trap now. See the link.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7598

bowlesj3

NOTE: The final version is attached to the last post. Please read that post and study the functions before using them. This zip file contains 1/ a seconds bar movetrendline_s function and the original function. 2/ Both have the new trap to try and detect if the resulting move of the line does not ma...

bowlesj3

It is a complex issue. Many brokers MC can run with. Many types of traders. Some trying full automation. Some not. Special wants of each trader. Regarding the last one, my control program is designed to tuck in the lower right corner of the right most screen directly under IB's TWS and out of the wa...

bowlesj3

My search works now (gets recent posts). However all-in-all it is not as good as the prior forum.

email notification of threads I am following is random. Mostly not notified.

bowlesj3

NOTE: The final version is attached to the last post. Please read that post and study the functions before using them. Your welcome Bob/TJ. I have adjusted the routine with a debugging trap to attempt to detect if the line has been moved to the destination input parameters correctly or not. If the t...

bowlesj3

- would be possible to have the option to print the charts, without the black background. (maybe with the help of a checkbox in the dialog box) We are using a lot of ink when we print the black background. each time we have to manually configure the chart background white (we don't see the chart ve...

bowlesj3

Interesting conversation guys. Having MC modular would be nice. I can think of a few functions I would not use. Scalping is always an interesting topic to me. I always get interested when someone says MC is not a good scalping program. In that case I must be an "almost scalper" since MC seems 100% p...

bowlesj3

I can see only 2 differences relative to my setup. 1/ I am using IB's TWS for my feed. 2/ I do not use tick charts (only 10 second bars). They fixed the search. Here are the threads I started and Super's comment below. Ticks Missing Test using TS & MC with GV Data Sharing. https://www.multicharts.co...

bowlesj3

Since I started using this function to move trend lines, I have seen only one incorrect move of the trend line. The next execution of the function corrected it. Now that I know that in very rare situations it will get the two commands inverted incorrectly (TL_SetBegin and TL_SetEnd) I have it on my ...

bowlesj3

Hi Tresor, If this issue can be tested on historic data, please let me know how. I don't think you can test this on historic. All code uses "if lastbaronchart then" meaning ticks need to be coming in after that bar is finally displayed on the chart. I will reread your post again after the trading da...

bowlesj3

I agree Bob. You seem to be getting really bad numbers in your histogram but I am not getting as bad numbers in my 10 second bars. Do you get bad numbers if you apply it to 1 minute bars or 10 second bars? Try my new variant on your code that reports missing executions rather than the number of exec...

bowlesj3

Here is a simple way to prove that intrabarpersist is not the problem. Just drop this code into Bob's study near the bottom of the lastbaronchart section (include the variable of course). Now, turn off the study, clear the file that is written to and start the study running. It will write a line for...

bowlesj3

Thanks Tresor, I don't use the data window at all so I was a little lost there. You are correct. They should all be showing 500 I figure. But it just goes to show you that MC is missing execution of these studies randomly (rather than what it should be doing which is execute all studies on the chart...

bowlesj3

Bob, I applied your code to 10 second bars then I revised it to count the number of times your count "TradeCount = TradeCount + 1 ;" is not executed by MC for the bar that has just completed. Maybe this is a better way to look at it. Doing it this way you can apply it to minute bars, second bars or ...

bowlesj3

Hi Bob, Yes Andrew said it would be fixed for MC 6.0 official release but Dave said that they could not get a 100% fix due to the fact that a full fix would require profound changes to MC. Unfortunately I can't find the quotes for this quickly at this exact moment (I think I set them aside somewhere...

bowlesj3

Thanks all. Now to run that seqerr code on my setup and see what happens. Interesting how you like to format your print statements YM. I format them so I can very quickly adapt them for new debugging use by simply copying and pasting an existing field down then putting the new field name in (speed t...

bowlesj3

Interesting. Lets format that seq error for more easy reading with this simple code. Maybe this is the problem. If time <> 0000 then begin if time <> MinutesToTime(TimeToMinutes(Time[1]) + 1) then begin print ( "SeqErr: ", " ", " time=", " " , Time, " " , " Time[1]=", " " , Time[1], " " , " BarStatu...

bowlesj3

Try this

If time <> 0000 then
begin
if time <> MinutesToTime(TimeToMinutes(Time[1]) +1) then
print "time not in sequence";
end;

I suggest this because I seem to remember actually seeing the time command once report the incorrect time for its bar. I only saw it the one time.

bowlesj3

I can't get the attachment.

I think value1 and text_Gettime are the two that need comparison.

What happens if you create a special field such as Back1BarTime? You never know.

bowlesj3

You might want to try printing to your log the results of Text_GetTime (immediately after the Text_New is issued). See if it matches the time you are submitting to the Text_new. My bet is they are different. I would say barstatus is going to be 2 but that would be an assumption. Maybe it is worth se...

bowlesj3

I agree. The colours are hard on the eyes and yes the prior forum software was better (it had room form improvement however). For example, it was better in that I could see more posts on one page.

My Rating: Old=7/10 New=4/10

bowlesj3

Another problem with the search on the new forum is the user ID of the person who created the thread is not on a single column all by itself. It makes it very hard to scan very quickly down to strip out all the other people to find a specific user who created the thread as a way of filtering. To mak...

bowlesj3

Question, I noticed some other fields that are outside the scope of the EL code you show. Is that the only Text_new statement or Text move related statement in the script? If it is the only one then try getting the date and time from the Text itself (Text_GetDate Text_GetTime) immediately after the ...

bowlesj3

I have the same problem.

Also, I changed the subject to be more generic to the new forum generally.

bowlesj3

I have never had a problem with this command set. MinutesToTime(TimeToMinutes(Time) -1) Try putting the above directly in the Text_new command. Either that or put wtime below in that Text_New command after setting it as below. Wtime = MinutesToTime(TimeToMinutes(Time) -1); Doing it this way reduces ...

bowlesj3

It would be handy if EL could put the newline and carriage return into text as well as allowing basic wrap around and sizing. Qcharts can do wrap around and manually at least it can create new lines. I think this is the 2nd request for this. I would like to put a sort of scoring grid on the chart wh...

bowlesj3

I was putting the reserve word "break" in a for loop to end it and I noticed in the list that comes up the existence of the reserve word "breakpoint". However when I tried to use that as a reserve word I get a compile error. Both of these words can not be found in the help search. Since one works fo...

bowlesj3

The search currently seems to have a bug because it is missing anything after 2007. Comments: The search seems limited (only one field with no complex search capability as we had before) (backwards move). The new forum format is going to take some getting use to. I just noticed there is a lot less r...

bowlesj3

I wish it was available built in with MC. It would have saved me hours of work and I see no use for the setbegin setend pair of commands unless you want to only setend alone to extend it but not off the chart. It could probably test for moving only one end or the other if there is no change to the o...

bowlesj3

I just got an email, which seemed to be one I would get if someone added a post to a thread I was following or created. The subject of the email was "Topic reply notification - "4th Subject: MC6 IB backfill spikes (history)" However the email itself was different. I clicked to go to the subject and ...

bowlesj3

NOTE: The final version is attached to the last post. Please read that post and study the functions before using them. I have always found that moving trend lines was more of a challenge than it should be so I finally wrote this function to do it for me properly. I searched and this appears to be th...

bowlesj3

Ability to programmatically start and stop calculations.

Sounds like a debugger.

bowlesj3

The angle lines I am referring to are mentioned in the book by John Hayden "The 21 Irrefutable Truths Of Trading" (great book!). They are in the RSI (generally the 1-minute bars). However sometimes in the 10 second bars. I am sure they exist elsewhere at times but it is probably because of the day t...

bowlesj3

Because I trade the E-Mini which ticks fast I can use this technique. (Note: the later versions of MC have a command call RecalcLastBarAfter which can force the study to execute every second if you wish and it makes these MC_???_GetActive commands more useful.) I am currently setting up a TL_GetActi...

bowlesj3

Okay, I see it now. Only ever had TS4 EOD. Never used it much really and never knew it all that well (not compared to MC). Seems someone is still using it as mentioned by someone on the omega-list. I would have thought it was long gone. But then again it was having a date problem so maybe it has hit...

bowlesj3

Okay so currently what I do is I put the _self command in an Indicator that is isted in the "format objects" studies tab, as subchart #2 ... and .... I have found that as long as I have the scale set properly it will appear properly on that subchart #2. It appears that my above description is the co...

bowlesj3

any subchart: I always run the _self commands in a study that runs in subchart #2 (so far only TL_ and Arw_). My understanding (from what you said) is that the _self commands can run in a study that is based in subchart #1. Okay so assuming that is correct and if I have 2 subcharts and the _self co...

bowlesj3

LOL, Hey TJ, for the first time I noticed your cool glasses actually flash. That is the trivia for the day. Actually I just realized only one of them flashes. Fixing that is today's RFC to TSS. So one study can put drawing objects on two subcharts. Didn't know that. Learn something every day. I thin...

bowlesj3

Yes the reruns without notice is a problem at times until one does what they have to in order to deal with it. You have found a solution that fits you. I have found one that fits me. I personally will not likely ever exceed the maximum MaxBarsBack I have currently set and I have a system to detect i...

bowlesj3

Hi Janus, It is an interesting variation on my thoughts. I will give it some thought and comment further when I have a bit more time. However you are correct in that removing the MaxBarsBack processing from MC is unrealistc for TSS support to do. However I am guessing that a quick and dirty way to s...

bowlesj3

Here are additional thoughts on how these getactive commands can be used. My current main use: Place an arrow on the RSI chart, detect that the arrow is highlighted using the Arw_GetActive command, have the binary search get the RSI value where it is located, put the RSI value in the text of the arr...

bowlesj3

A wish list item. Variiables: NoMaxBarsBack MyVar(0), NoMaxBarsBack IntraBarPersist MyVar2(0); The new keyword I would like to see is "NoMaxBarsBack" for any variable we know does not need it. Is there no way to tell MC not to set up a maxbarsback table for a variable (just like it can do for functi...

bowlesj3

Hi Dave, Regarding, Dear John, Please tell us how critical is for you the implementation of MC versions of Text_GetActive Arw_GetActive and TL_GetActive? The simple answer is extremely critical. As stated earlier I won't be upgrading until the MC versions are back (in some form). REASON: I am a disc...

bowlesj3

Actually having the Text_GetActive Arw_GetActive and TL_GetActive would probably be as good as you need for Manual Trading if the other heavily requested feature of timed execution of studies was put in place since slow ticks would not be an issue and the timing could be set at whatevr speed the tra...

bowlesj3

Note that the GetAppInfo commands can at times be used to place text (or line or arrows for that matter) on the chart in certain locations for highlighting. For certain types of use this could be very handy in that it can keep the item out of the way of prices (yet still in view on the chart).

bowlesj3

No Problem. Yes the commands are very useful. You can even use the TL_GetActive in various situations. I am about to put that command to use again.

bowlesj3

It is confirmed in the thread below that there is little value in combining your studies within one chart to try and save processing speed or memory with MC (unless there is a problem specific to your code).

http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?p=34378#34378

bowlesj3

Thanks Dave,

That is just great. I am going to make reference to this thread in the tips and tricks for MC efficiency. It is a very important thing to be aware of.

I am also assuming it is not just memory but rather processing speed too.

John.

bowlesj3

Yes short cut keys should be put everywhere possible (in time when they are fairly well thought out). It is not just for the user to do them by hand but also for macro key programs to be able to run sequences of them (often where the user only clicks a button on their software or maybe as little as ...

bowlesj3

I have 9 studies running on my 1 minute bar chart. I don't suppose anyone knows how much speed or efficiency is gained in MC if I was to try and dump the code from one or two of them into another one such that I only run 7 studies instead of 9. Am I correct in assuming that once MC is loaded the cod...

bowlesj3

I agree with Dave. I think any keyboard shortcuts if they are hard set by TSS have to be delayed until new features are finalized in design and after that they need to be very well thought out since if there is an error and some need changing after the fact people will likely get upset (especially i...

bowlesj3

Thanks Anastassia You did a better job than I did. I scanned found another one and missed that one. I remember it now that you point it out. So Bruce and I were correct. It is a great feature. I think it is worth mentioning the feature in your marketing (somehow so new users can understand it and se...

bowlesj3

Hi Anastassia, Thanks for the response. Actually my understanding was that TSS was going to create an MC version of the three commands and a TS version of the commands and after a number of posts Bruce indicated he had the same understanding (I will get the quote soon that suggests that although I m...

bowlesj3

No, what I mean is the local government can if they wish (change to daylight savings time and go back to normal time) at a different date than the normal date at which the D4 program picks up this change. There is no law that they have to conform to the normal date for shifting to daylight savings t...

bowlesj3

Hi Spaceant, No, I sent a request to the D4 people. I offered to live test for them. Maybe they will just put the offset feature in eventually. Right now if one needs this offset, the only way to keep using D4 during this time is to change the time zone on the computer. However that can create probl...

bowlesj3

I doubt windows will ever match D4's features. I wrote to them asking for an offset too (for when Govs change the local time zone and mess it up during part of the year as in my situation). I have not heard back.

bowlesj3

(not directly tied to MC run efficiency) there are some programs mentioned in this thread (with URLs) for setting your PC clock accurately or tracking time around the world.

http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.ph ... ight=clock

bowlesj3

Someone may want to add to this list if it has changed. these are MC related processes I am aware of.

MultiCharts.exe
MCActiveX.exe
MessageCenter.exe
QuoteManager.exe
StudyServer.exe
tsServer.exe

bowlesj3

Here are web pages for Monitoring CPU performance with task manager.

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=686

If you want a supercharged program this is one to check out. You can make the screen shot full size.
http://www.iarsn.com/taskinfo.html

bowlesj3

Regarding determining memory needed for running the latest MC version and all your other software (after making a few attempts) this google search string seems to pull up good results. "how much computer memory do i need" I have not read them all yet. However here are a few I looked at that seemed f...

bowlesj3

From TJ's post "How to back up multicharts".

http://www.tssupport.com/support/base/? ... le&id=2028

bowlesj3

Hi, Has a command (or option) been created to allow the use of the original MC version of Arw_GetActive, Text_GetActive, TL_GetActive which is still available in MC 6.0 beta 2. it was a very valuable feature in MC to be able to feed interactive inputs into your studies and I use it extensively in th...

bowlesj3

Hi Dave, Yes, I am not surprised actually. However it seems as though it is a lot better now than the last time I did these tests (at least when it comes to missing an execution of the study when a tick comes in). Thanks, John P.S. We have to thank Bob for his persistance. Had he not have kept compl...

bowlesj3

This is a perfect item for the MC efficiency thread at the top (the sticky one).

"Tips, tricks, programs, etc for MC resource Management"
http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=7466

bowlesj3

Regarding that old issue “Studies not getting executed on every tick.” I wrote a new script which is attached to both 1/ retest this problem and 2/ prove that intrabarpersist does work. Regarding #2 it has proven that there is in fact no problem with “intrabarpersist”. This was done by creating a Gl...

bowlesj3

I created a more elaborate version of the above logic (see attached zip file) which takes into account the arrival of ticks to MC (and the charts) as well as processing of charts in sequence for each tick arrival (currently charts appear to be processed in random order). Special note: To help unders...

bowlesj3

Hi Bob, I think the thread above on IntraBarPersist (the one I created http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6871 ) would be good to continue it. The last post of that thread has the intrabarpersist logic which I derived from all my tests on intrabarpersist. I will also review your code and see...

bowlesj3

Hi Bob, I went over your response a few times and I am pretty sure it is the missing ticks problem now that I remember the research. The reserve word ticks is reproting correctly (meaning that by the end of the bar when "barstatus = 2" this reserve word has the correct number). What happens is there...

bowlesj3

Hi Bob, I can explain what is happening to cause your volume bars to be giving the incorrect readings, Price on a bar is fine because the high tick comes through and the low tick comes through and the open tick and the close tick too. Volime bars exists because some of the ticks have come through an...

bowlesj3

Here is a very good way to explain what happens with and without intrabarpersist. Lets say you have defined a variable. MyClose(0). and the MaxBarsBack is 2. MyClose is actually represented like this in memory. MyClose[2] MyClose[1] (Note: this is the previous bar) MyClose[0] (Note: this is the curr...

bowlesj3

Actually, according to my research the problem you mention Bob is one if missing ticks. I found the post with a revised subject name. http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6877&highlight=missing+ticks If ticks are missing it will mess up your volume info for sure (kind of obvious). The big ques...

bowlesj3

If your study is using an index/subscript in its logic MC has no way of knowing your index will exceed either the MaxBarsBack setting or actually reference back farther than the number of the bars on the chart. No compiler is that smart (it would have to be able to figure out your logic). If you exc...

bowlesj3

As far as I remember, the error is that it is trying to reference back enough bars that it can not even find a bar. In other words it is trying to reference back before the first bar on the chart for that data series. It is not the same as trying to refrence back past the maxbarsback setting which c...

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removed.

bowlesj3

Regarding graphic cards for running multiple monitors on MC and speed related issues/suggestions the following thread has some information.

http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=7432

bowlesj3

What would be ideal is MC allowing us to decide which indicators to process first irrespective of the order they appear on the chart. I agree (it would require a sequence number however). I use A_ or A1, etc. The A keeps all my indicators/studies at the top of the editor together and the numbers or...

bowlesj3

I am pretty sure that they run in top down (alpha) sequence within a chart. You can be sure of this by putting a fileappend command in both studies which writes to the same file and maybe you would write out the study name and the bar number and the bar's time too. Of course you put this on the last...

bowlesj3

Again the purpose of this thread is to provide any info or location of info on how to optimize MC’s speed any way possible (software tools, reading, websites, whatever). And more specifically ways to optimize MC. It could include ways to not bog it down or create problems as well as gregorio123456 p...

bowlesj3

I was wondering if we could create a central thread containing tips, tricks, programs of use, web sites of use, etc for the purpose of determining if MC (or other programs) are using too much memory, or swapfile space, or CP useage, etc such that things slow down too much (even repainting of the scr...

bowlesj3

but then John will never satisfy his curiosity Wink unless a non-disclosure agreement is signed Smile LOL, yes, I agree. I guess I should do the poll and sell the info. Although I may never have the answer to the questions above, curiousity is good because (thanks to Tresor's comment) I now know wh...

bowlesj3

Not directly related to MC but I am sure this discussion would be of great interest to TSS. For me it is just curiosity. How would one determine these counts. A/ Number of fully automated traders. B/ Number of discretionary traders (ones with rules). C/ Number trying to go from B to A. D/ Number not...

bowlesj3

I never have problems with the D4 program. However as I said my daylight savings time shift occurs at a strange time in my area (never use to) and that screws me up for a few weeks every spring and fall. To solve this I change my computer to the central time zone rather than the eastern time zone. T...

bowlesj3

Your welcome. A former brokerage firm I had from new york insisted I use it so the time stamps would be correct.

bowlesj3

I use dimension4 http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/help/ It has a lot of atomic clock websites and lots of features. I find that recently during the bi yearly time shifts I have to change my computer time zone because our area is different now. It use to work great but our local government changed ...

bowlesj3

I tired ctrl + home on the symbol settings screen and it messed up the drop down for resolution. So I can see why thought, care and testing are required here.

bowlesj3

Thanks Super, Actually for me it is not that big an issue (having the MC version of arw_GetActive/Text_GetActive/TL_GetActive available and having the cross hair available while moving arrows or trend lines for me is much more important since I use these constantly where as this problem only occurs ...

bowlesj3

Hi Dave, sounds good. By the way I tried ctrl + home and ctrl + leftarrow and ctrl+up arrow and could not find a key that would force the tabs to highlight the first tab. If that was there then a macro program could force it to the first tab then use ctrl + tab to move over to the one it wanted. Tha...

bowlesj3

Option 3 promises improved productivity. Having 3 options for sure improves productivity because everyone gets into certain habits that suit what they do. In other words the sum productivity of all users added together. For me and most likely many others I am constantly comparing waves, bounces ref...

bowlesj3

I do not have a big need for this feature idea at the moment but I do have a use and something could come up with myself or someone else at any time that could make this idea fairly valuable to them. If the tabs on any form could be switched to directly by a key stroke sequence such as ctrl + Alt + ...

bowlesj3

Thanks Dave,

I will do that. It will be at about 7:45 am eastern standard time when I do.

John.

bowlesj3

Issue #1: down arrows not centered over the bar. Regarding this issue I mentioned above. One down arrow I use regularly is on the right side of the bar a slight bit and when the program changes the same arrow to the other style it is on the other side of the bar. I didn't realize this until just no...

bowlesj3

So is this the summary that would make everyone happy? Extra happy if done in MC 6.0! :D Cross Hair options: Option1 :Cross hair off all the time. Option2: Cross hair on all the time (my option and maybe Bob's) Option3: Cross hair on if left mouse button is held down (Gann-Man) For us discretionary ...

bowlesj3

Thanks guys for the extra info. I will summarize everything for the guy at the computer shop and price things out.

bowlesj3

Thanks, geizer After experiencing a 28" monitor for trading I won't go below 27.5 at the 1920 X 1200 resolution. I am not an expert on monitors so I like to see the charts on the monitor before I can decide if I like it or not. I can't relate the numbers to good or bad experience from the past. My e...

bowlesj3

The I-INC I am using is 1920x1200 in a 28". Running at $330 Canadian at a location near buy. It seems like the best deal in my area for monitors I can just pick up (BEST BUY can't match it let alone have one that big). I have one now and it seems pretty good (however it is only about 1 year old). I ...

bowlesj3

Okay, I have left myself a reminder to review this thread just before I go to the computer shop where I do all my upgrades. I will run it buy the guy.

Thanks,
John.

bowlesj3

Thanks guys, Nice setups. I already have the monitor selected. It is I-INC and is very good so far for a 28" at low cost (touch wood). I guess it is the 3 port card I am looking for which works well. I have Nvidia Geforce 7300 SE/7200 GS now. System is AMD Atholon(tm) 64 X 2 Dual Core Processor 3600...

bowlesj3

Hi,

I have pretty much decided to go to a triple 28" minitor setup (or at least a double 28" and 20").

Does anyone have any suggestions regarding good cards (or setups generally) for this.

Thanks,
John.

bowlesj3

I think others have asked about this. For me although I have a few studies that would be better with charts executing in a specific order I don't think not having this will effect my bottom line income that much. I just think that if TSS has nothing better to do some day and if it is not that hard t...

bowlesj3

I don't have the answer but it is an interesting question. I asked if the GV named string searches were being done in binary but got no answer so you may suffer the same fate on this question. In this regard generally, I often think that studies and charts should be processed in a predetermined sequ...

bowlesj3

Pretty fast.
Thanks Dave.
John.

bowlesj3

LOL, Took me a while to figure out your joke. I know Bob, I resisted upgrading for so long and now I just can't stop bugging them for the next one

What can I say. I got rid of the bed bugs and got the beta bugs.

bowlesj3

Subject says it all.
Thanks,
John.

bowlesj3

I have not been reporting these backfill spikes that often lately. However I would like to mention a 100% consistency about it. I start MC two times during every single trading day. Once at about 5am to get things basically set up before I do a few routines including about 1 hour of research work. L...

bowlesj3

Hi geizer, I am sure we can trust Andrew and TSS. It would be the new company I would be concerned about. I got thinking about that old Jessy Livermore saying "Expect the Unexpectable" (seems many have used it) and decided getting the dongle was in order. Besides a copy of all important software I u...

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After Text_GetActive / Arw_GetActive and I am assuming TL_GetActive being removed from MC 6.0 Beta 3 for (hopefully as short a period of time as possible), I have decided that I will imediately sign up for the dongle (the sooner the better). That way if TSS goes belly up with no equally intellegent ...

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These Text_GetActive / Arw_GetActive ideas are more useful for the Discretionary Trader. Regarding my comment above shown below One final note. I forgot to mention that (with arrows at least) this command can be very useful with arrow manual drops rather than arrows which are preplaced by a study. G...

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Very welcome.

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I created a base Interactive script that anyone can use to interactively exacute a study from the chart screen (just insert whatever you want it to do in the correct place within a copy of this base script). As an example, you might want it to clear old trend lines from your chart prior to a certain...

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NOTE: Regarding the next paragraph, as of MC 7.0 Beta 1 and later, new Getactive commands were created to replace the ones below which changed to acting like the TS GetActive commands upon MC 6.0 Beta 3. These new MC 7.0 commands are MC_TL_GetActive, MC_Text_GetActive and MC_Arw_GetActive. Actually ...

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I have never done this but could you not just set up a Continuos contract or is that just too many contracts.

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All true (zero doubt at all): Translation: make it easy to come over and keep clients using MC by giving more than they had before. A no brainer actually (MS used it with Word Perfect so it is not a new marketing strategy). Regarding how it was done with the Text_GetActive command, my suggestion is ...

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You jumped me or something. here is the response. It is an extension of the above. I guess it is just burning curiosity with me to ask "What can this command buy me"? I spent a fair bit of time at break trying to figure out how to use it (of course when the MC version command comes back). Of note, I...

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All true Bruce but it does not answer the question. Here is the point. I have at least 2 times reviewed every single command in the manual looking for a way to use the commands and done the same for every single non strategy related study and function that comes with MC (except strategies that line ...

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As far rating the value of the beta 2 text_getactive versus the beta 3 text_getactive I remember first finding out about the beta 2 version and I instantly saw a great deal of value in it. I still can not see any value in the beta 3 version and can see all sorts of work arounds to achieve that same ...

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I bumped this threat because I figure many people will find this feature very useful and they will want to vote for it. Below is the text for the feature request. I have created a database utility to copy all the studies and functions from the EL code directories to a single work directory. I can th...

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Hi Dave, Regarding this in the beta3 announcement • Indicators are calculated differently in MultiCharts and TS (if they contain Text_GetActive,, TL_GetActive). and Get_Active returns the last drawing that was changed (eg. created or changed color or selected with a mouse). It is mildly unfortunate ...

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Sounds good Dave. Just one more thing I want to add to that "beta help" idea. If you ever try it and find that your competition gets too much of a jump on your ideas one of these secondary ideas to make it work could be "only letting users see it who have submitted very useful ideas etc" in other wo...

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Regarding the TSS plan to eventually have a Text_GetActive (TS Version) and probably a Text_GetActive_ex (extended MultiCharts Version) if TSS employed my idea of using the (beta help) as a design framework which precedes beta programming work then the error TSS made would not have occured in that u...

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I was already done for the day when the market dropped and didn't get to see it. Not my cup of tea anyway. I agree Bob, I color code the 10 second bars (4 different colors) based upon length. Red is the length of my stop loss and beyond. When that occurs I do not trade. I get warnings on the two ot...

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To Dave Masalov We understand that it may cause inconveniences for some users and plan to add the MC version of the keywords in the future. They way you handled the change scares me. I gave it thought the night after the first post about Text_GetActive to explain the way you changed it. I took the m...

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Exactly Bruce and TJ. Seems we are all on the same page. In fact TSS was too with this command. bartype_ex which is an extension of bartype as I was told by Super. So a command Text_GetActive_ex is fine with me. Like I said we just do a search and replace and all is well again. Obviously Arw_GetActi...

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Hi Bob, Here is an explaination of what is suppose to happen and what is happening in MC 6.0 beta 3. It also explains the signficance of the change they have made. Version MC - MC 6.0 beta2 and before: What is suppose to happen: Text_GetActive is suppose to return -1 if no text has been highlighted ...

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Hi Dave Masalov, Your very first post states: Dear bowlesj3, In Beta 3 Multicharts behaves similarly to TS. We had multiple requests from users to change it that way. So the text is always active now. This is unbelievable and I suspect you are misundertanding something! 1/ It defeats the purpose of ...

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Yes I think the idea is okay. Before I had my experience described above I had read that they are actually faster and my impression was this is because they store roll around tables for you automatically (ones where the programmer tests for off the end and resets the subscript/index to the other end...

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I don't think I have ever run across a series function until EL. Dynamic (holding their values until the next call) yes. Am I correct in assuming it is an invention of the C language? I guess Dynamic functions could contain working arrays so maybe I have actually. I have never had any use for one or...

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Your welcome. Nice to hear good news.

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I was thinking about that prior double monitor software I had. It would be possible for it to force popups to be centered on one or the other monitor. However it could not do the same for tool bars since they typically will not be in the center (could be anywhere). Ideally MC should have control of ...

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There is a problem with Text_GetActive and Arw_GetActive. It thinks text is active when it is not. With Arw_GetActive it does the same thing. For me this is deadly and I have to do an immediate roll back to Beta 2. I am now back on MC 6.0 beta2 and the problem is fixed. I still have beta3 on the not...

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You have a different editor properties screen. My editor properties screen is much simpler.

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I was getting that same "can't launch whatever" in my database program when I tried to open a new form after running for a few hours. I found I had to close it right down and restart and it was good for another period of time. I was thinking that this started around the time I installed MC 6.0. I ne...

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Strange, now it is working. Well at least I am prepared now. I have the following code for it. inputs: UseGetApp("Y"), if UseGetApp = "Y" then WaveTopDownLineB_Value = GetAppInfo(aiHighestDispValue) - TopDownDistance else WaveTopDownLineB_Value = Highest(High,30) + TopDownDistance; if UseGetApp = "Y...

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LOL, so they are working for you Gentlemen. Maybe it is just that old song "Monday Monday, can't trust that day" at work. Maybe I will make it a parameter to switch them in and out and see if I get a different result (LOL) on Tuesday.

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I installed (for the first time) last Friday (2010/Apr/30) these GetAppInfo commands while using MC 6.0 beta 2. WaveTopDownLineB_Value = GetAppInfo(aiHighestDispValue) - 2; WaveTopDownLineT_Value = GetAppInfo(aiLowestDispValue) - 1; It was working properly in that it was putting the text strings at ...

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What I discovered about series functions is that if you have a work variable defined only in that function it will store that work field such that you can go back in time with the square brackets. The RSI function relies on this. Related to this, I have a process where I loop to determine what the p...

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Can you? Hint: My toolbars have been screwed up ever since this featured toolbar has been added. The playback tool bar of course. You gave me An idea Bob but I didn't get a cigar. I tried not having the playback tool bar and restarting MC but I get the same thing (tool bars go to the left monitor e...

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Your welcome Bob.

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I put the function I created for detecting/reporting on the hidden recalculate out in user contributued studies for anyone who might want to use it as a base for their approach.
http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=7362

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Lately I close mostely using file exit from the left Monitor (primary Monitor). Question? What would I look at in the Nvidia software that might effect this? I checked and I only have the driver installed. During the time I had MC 2.1.999.999 I had a virus and had to format and reinstall everything....

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bowlesj3: are you sure it's a problem with MC and not with your monitor setup software ? (If it works ok on your single monitor) I know I had some trouble getting my 4 monitors to work the way I wanted. I have IB on the far right screen and 3 MC windows in the left 3 monitors. I had to set some thi...

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I have the tool bars change every startup and I just get use to resetting them as described in the above post. I have a two monitor setup (20 inch and 28 inch - want to go to 3 monitors). 20 inch left is the main. 28 inch right is secondary. My tool bars are (customized: playback, drawing tooks, con...

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HI TJ, Thats cool. I was wondering that just as I typed my comment you quoted. Specifically if a moderator can move a thead from one forum to the other if appropriate. I thought I had seen that before but I couldn't remember. On a somewhat related note, You have a sticky at the top of "user contribu...

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I think the next highest replay feature priority after fixing the missing replay slider speeds (which of course has been done) is the space bar shortcut key to pause and restart the replay. It is more important than the favorite speed idea, etc. If there are other competing uses for the spacebar may...

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I think ADE (all data everywhere) might be able to do that. I have never used it but read the documentation quickly. It is found here.
http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=2483

Actually this thread should probably be in the main forum since it is not a user contributed study/function.

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Update: I created a 2nd post for this thread that has an attached indicator which explains how the maxbarsback works and shows what can trip the hidden recalculate. It write out two fileappend statements that help with the explaination. The attached zip file contains the A_HiddenRecalculate functio...

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I just did a test. Thanks TSS for fixing MC 6.0 in beta 3 such that when I start MC (in off-line mode the next day in the morning), the charts from the previous day are still showing. This saves the trader a lot of time in that they do not have to log in to get their datafeed to do a backfill to get...

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Thanks for fixing the Playback slider speed in beta 3. It is much better now. It actually runs at about 1/2 of what is says but that doesn't really matter. All that matters is that it has fairly even increments and now it can be set to run at a reasponable practice speed.

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Today I found you can keep working while the 10 second bars are waiting to do the reload. The studies keep working and the prices keep coming in. when it finally does the reload the vertical scaling goes completely flat so you have to set it back. It should be interesting to see if it keeps having t...

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Hi Bruce, My program I use to control things is tucked in the corner and has many dozens of buttons, control tip text boxes, etc. Many buttons are 1/2 the size of the minimize/maximize button in windows. Clicking them fast and accurately is no problem. However finding a place to simply highlight tha...

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I don't suppose anyone knows how to turn off that annoying double click action on the (heavy blue - windows drag area)that exists at the top of most (if not all) windows programs. I am referring to the area where the minimize, maximize and X for close buttons are. I often want to simply highlight a ...

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I had to restart MC to get the 10 second bars corrected for the above post. Again I think there is an intermittent problem in the reload for second bars because the restart of MC will fix up the 10 second bars in less than 30 seconds (most times - I had one instance where the restart did not fix it ...

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an interesting backfill spike. picture attached. It occured in all minute bars and the 10 second bars. Reload fixed minute bars fast. 10 second bars are already over 2 or 3 minutes trying to reload. I may have to restart MC to get that fix completed in reasonable time. Note, if you view this picture...

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I agree. I think TSS just does not have enough staff. However I think that after taking that into consideration they are doing an amazing job in spite of it. For my use MC is perfect and if they fix one thing only in MC 6.2 beta (that is the speeds on the replay slider control) then I will have my s...

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Getting closer to Janus's original topic where he touched on what I call "MC's hidden recalculate", I just finished the initial version of the function I will be dropping into all my studies to (detect/report on) this hidden recalculate. I installed it into one fairly simply study that has the RSI w...

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What you describe Janus sounds good. Looking forward to it. I think everyone knows it will get better (including MC too).

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I didn't like the backward subscripting reference at first. As I learn it better I too have gotten use to it. I for the first time today actually used a "MyRSI(NumericSeries)," in a function and that was pretty cool. I had seen it but did not know what it meant then I wanted to put the MyRSI field i...

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Now that I have it fixed it stays at 1000 or 500. I haven't checked but I don't think it goes above it now. It is just that I can't really manually notice any difference in speed of execution. Of course other factors have changed such as a big upgrade in MC from 2.1.999.999 to 6.1 beta. I am going t...

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I have had some studies running with MaxBarsBack at 8000. It was my old binary search logic doing it (now fixed). The main point is it ran okay. I can't tell the difference now that it is running lower. Not sure if that helps at all.

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BREAK You can put the BREAK command into a FOR loop or a WHILE loop. variables: X(0); For X = 1 to 100 begin {instructions} {instructions} {instructions} if condition1 = true then BREAK; end; Print(File("C:\A_ForLoopTest.txt"), "X=", " " , X, " " , " "); .

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Thanks TJ Regarding Bruce's comments below, Well, and we simply need to remind TSS to add these to the help with search on the forum as a stopgap, as I'm sure we can all agree the peer support forum shouldn't be the primary documentation. I agree however, the undocumented commands thread (and repeat...

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I have a couple of loops like that (including the while loops)

Maybe there should be a special thread created for undocumented commands generally (outside of the unsupported reserve word list).

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And a clean compile on this one. A nice treat to find out about this. variables: X(0); if currentbar = 1 then begin For X = 1 to 100 begin if X = 10 then break; end; Print(File("C:\A_ForLoopTest.txt"), "X=", " " , X, " " , " "); switch X begin case 1: Print(File("C:\A_ForLoopTest.txt"), "case=", " "...

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Thanks Bruce,

You are jogging my memory a bit. VB has the "select case" statement where as the switch statement I use to use was very similar to what you show above if I remember correctly. It has been at least 10 years since I have seen it.

John.

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about the same time they made "switch" and "case" available Hi Chris, Are you saying we also have a Case statement? LOL, I use to use a Switch statement somewhere in my 11 or so languages I have programmed in over the years but I can't remember where or even what it does now. I think it was one of ...

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either that or you use the "break" statement. Gee a break statement. I went searching for "break" and "exit" before and all the help I have did not show it. I guess I should have just tried it (which I did just now and it works). So is there a help kicking around for MC that I am not aware of that ...

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I did this type of thing once before actually about 2/3 years ago. There was a counter of the number of currentbar=1 runs and if > 1 then it notified me. I should have set this up back then. It has to be initialized at the start of the trading day since the studies are only suppose to run currentbar...

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So I guess the function which runs at the currentbar=1 location will have to set a GV which is picked up by either another study at the lastbaronchart location or another program to give a popup notice. It could submit the study name as the GV value. Maybe even use a second GV containing the new max...

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Interesting Idea. For me (being discretionary) I use no signals at all so it would be better to create a function and drop it in every study at currentbar = 1. One thing. I have noticed that the alert command does not seem to work until lastbaronchart. I have never dug into this to investigate farth...

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That did it guys. Thanks. Seeing as this could happen in any study during any similar such changes I have it on my todo list now to drop some code in the currentbar = 1 code to notify me of any hidden recalculates (as mentioned above). However it will suggest checking the "auto detect" or "current h...

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Thanks guys, you are correct. I am going to pick a fairly high number, try it and get back to you. It makes sense actually because the statement tripping it is time_s[variable] but the variable is getting its value from a GV from another study. It is just recently I put that statement in so before t...

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I found the statement it likes to recalculate on but I can not see any problem in the EL code.

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I have just discovered that a study I have is doing the MC hidden recalculate (maybe only during replay mode but I am not sure yet). I know this because I am using fileappend on the first bar of the chart statement (recalculate wipes out a print statement log and thus you can not use the print state...

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Hi Janus, I am not sure of your problem but one certainly has to be fully aware of this stuff when using trend lines. In this thread at the last post http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6871 it explains things I have noticed about trend lines (and text and arrows). The basic idea is MC gets c...

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I figured it out (I think). It occurs if you have tools on a chart such as arrows or trend lines then you change the symbol. It retains the reference to these tools in the list of drawings but puts an asterisk in front of them. Maybe it is telling you that if you switch back to the old symbol these ...

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This problem is new. I have sent PMs with only one browser session open before (the last one probably 2/3 weeks ago). I have never seen this before.

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I am 100% convinced you are the web master! I never would have thought to try this.

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I just tried it with Super and our tests worked.

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open 2 copies of the forum,
and send PM from the 2nd copy.

Just tried this TJ. It took the message. I guess we will find out if SUPER gets it.

What really has me curious is what would make you think to try this.

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I think that the reload on the 10 second bars MAY be too slow. I did a reload on the 1 minute bars to fix todays backfill and the reload corrected the problem in maybe 10 seconds. However on the 10 second bars it seems to take 5 to 10 minutes (if I have the patience to wait that long). However if I ...

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As a test I tried to PM you Super and it does not accept it at all. Is this the same as what is happening to you?
John.

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I got another one of these spikes. I have noticed that 1/ if I highlight the 1 minute bar chart the reload does 1 minute bars up to 60 minute bars only. 2/ However if I highlight 10 second bars then the reload does 10 second bars only. 3/ Along this line if I highlight the daily bars and do the relo...

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It can be challenging when you have multi studies in subchart #2. The problem occurs if your scale setting differ across the studies. You might want to read the last few posts of this thread, which is a story of my battle with this issue and the final solutions mentioned in the last few posts. http:...

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I have been thinking about this chart scrolling topic. I think it is helpful to categorize it into two areas. 1/ repositioning something you can see already. 2/ moving it to find something and position something that is outside the current viewing area. for #1 the click+hold+drag method that Janus w...

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I 100% agree Janus. My joking about the circle motion was just a way of emphasizing that the feature would allow one to move it in a circle if desired. Joking around was the only reason I could think of at that moment. A bit off topic but on this topic of clicking and holding the background, I wish ...

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I am curious.

What does an * in the front of the base-data column in the list of tools mean?

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Just click on the background and move; simple. Yep, this is the Qcharts method. If you are feeling a little crazy (frustraited) you can move the chart in circles and real fast too :D LOL the best time to do that is after a bad trade. On the more serious side I think the (ctrl / alt / shift - key) i...

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playback "Tick by Tick".

I remember now. It is the playback tick by tick that has the problem. The comment from TSS was in the first MC 6.0 beta feedback they put out. Maybe later I can find it. This is the resolution as TJ was asking.

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The attached backfill spike in the 10 second bars occured in all charts (10sec, 1min, 1min, 5min, 10min, 30min, 60min). It is an error because the IB TWS chart does not have it. Restart fixed it on all but the 10 second bars. Reload after the restart fixed it in the 10 second bars (fairly quickly th...

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