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bowlesj3

I just downloaded 6.0 beta1. It is Saturday and I have to wait for the IB data feed before I can get the e-mini data down in the new file format. I have a question so I don’t screw myself up. The short version question: Can I copy the MC6.0 data files to my notebook computer for offline (no internet...

bowlesj3

Thanks for the Christmas Gift. Especially thanks for the replay and custom tool bars. I guess I know what I am doing during the holidays

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Hi SpaceAnt, Yes it would be a nice feature to be able to run a stable version during the day and test after hours (even using the replay). The other alternative is maybe having a standard set of instructions for fast return to an old release. I have that somewhat now actually. I don't know if MC 2....

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Is there a good procedure to run a production MC version such as 2.1.999.999 that seldom bombs out during the day while at the same time testing a new version or beta version of MC on the same machine after the trading day is over so the new version will have zero chance of effecting daily trading o...

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Right now there is no way to execute a study or indicator between ticks. It has been requested as a feature for MC however. I will get back to this thread and include the URL link to that thread as a reminder that more than 1 or 2 would like to see this feature and for more than one reason. Of cours...

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You can play any chart the way it worked in the past. So it is a time machine. It works for indicators and strategies. Hi Andrew, Can it replay all a trader's standard charts they use during the trading day (in effect replay their exact setup simulating a live feed and with no regard for how many c...

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I tried them online today and I get the same result. It must have been fixed after MC 2.1.999.999

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I think there is a bug in the aiHighestDispValue and aiLowestDispValue parameters of the GetAppInfo command. The command immediately below (extracted from the help) is working. The code example for testing is shown. aiLeftDispDateTime - specifies return of the date and time of the leftmost bar displ...

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Overview: TradeSation “TS” (when running tick charts) appears to be perfectly executing the study on every tick where as TS on time based bars is not. MultiCharts “MC” is also not executing the study for every tick but it has the problem on all types of charts. The original internal stand-alone test...

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Hi spaceant, #1 Once you get everything installed you can work with GVs or ELcollections or ADE in any combination. #2 I don't really backtest with MC but I don't think there is a restriction that you are suggesting. GVs, ELcollections and ADE are only tools for passing data around. Once you have an...

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Hi SpaceAnt This thread gives you all the info to get started with GV2.2, ELcollections and ADE. I personally would upgrade to GV2.2 as per the instructions. http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?=&p=8189 Note that ELcollections can be a bit hard to understand. I put an addition to the documentat...

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No Problem Bob. ELcollections is a little strange at times. I have found a few times that the ListC.new command will assign a zero ID but if I put a print statement to a file (any file) before it then it starts working. Once it is working I can take the print out and it keeps working. It has happene...

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Your welcome. For those new to the ELcollections, this is the post that had the GV2.2, ELcollections and ADE info. https://www.multicharts.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2483 I posted a reply to that thread. It contains an attachement with an update to the ELcollections documentation with a cond...

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The command ListC.ReadFile(ID, FileName) is poorly explained. I finally got it to work and inserted an example of the basic code you need to get it to work. The revised document is included in the attached zip file. Also this thread Older Links on this forum seem to be messed up. this one does not w...

bowlesj3

Slight correction to the above post.

I have to squeeze the scale by dragging it down then double click.

double click alone does not work.

bowlesj3

For anyone who read this last night, I got it to work after a good nights sleep. The whole first post is revised with the correct ELcollections code and the appropriate adjustments here and there to match. The ELcollections is okay (NOW). The documentation is not that great. I went back and updated ...

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I was having problems figuring this out at the end of the day but I got it to work after a good nights sleep with a rested gray matter. The correct code is below. The command ListC.ReadFile(ListC_ID, "C:\EL_CollectionsTestData.txt"); is used to read the following file in. C:\EL_CollectionsTestData.t...

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It is doing a recalculate when it goes back and exceeds the maxbarsback. That is what sets it back to zero. With the auto setting, the compiler I guess is not smart enough to figure out the proper maxbarsback in the more complex print statement. To prove this, Try the more complex statement and add ...

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Regarding the statement I made below which appears 2 posts up, It seems that the best option of the two is the second. The reason is that when the studies get out of line you can see it because the extreme high and low plots will be out of whack. A simple double click on the right hand scale brings ...

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I am preparing the logic and will be coding up a set of 3 studies that will test for missing ticks after TSS gets their fix in. Based upon Super's run, TS has problems with time based bars but processes ticks correctly with tick charts. These studies will be run on both TS and MC to create a file of...

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Hi Nick, your correct regarding the ticks. What gets me is programmers who program compilers are very intelligent (it is not an easy thing to do). For a trader who does not need volume skipping ticks if they are the same price as the prior tick is not a bad idea if the studies are falling behind the...

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Hi Andrew, Regarding TS works perfectly because it is single-threaded. We didn't have the issue until we introduced the multi-threading. However we know how ot fix it. TS skips ticks with Minute bars just like MC. So single thread does not correct it in TS. From the sounds of Super's tests it appear...

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I thought custom tool bars were coming in version5.5 but it sounds like a delay has occured. What I am itching for that MC 2.1.999.999 does not have are: 1/ custom tool bars so I can have different colors of arcs, trend lines and arrows predefined ready to go (Different lengths of arrows and styles ...

bowlesj3

Can we put more than one color of arrow, arc or trend line (more than one definition) on the custom tool bar?

How many custom tool bars can be defined?

Thanks,
John.

bowlesj3

I copied this directly from another post (skip it if you have read it). It is a request for two new reserve words. The first one might be called, TickArrivalTime_s. It would be used to track how well our studies are doing relative to how they were doing before we made a recent change (as one example...

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Hi Dug, We have to thank Bob for is pesky persistence with his volume related problems. I don't look at ticks either but last friday I looked at Bob's script and thought "the ticks command should match his count right?". The fact that it did not caught my interest so I created the parallel thread ab...

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Thanks guys for the compliments about the list report. It should make it easier for TSS to confirm any bug fixes. At this point we do not know if this is symbol specific (or at least I do not). I have changed the first post to state the three bugs more directly right up front in the hope that more u...

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Hi Nick, I agree, For sure there is no intrabarpersist problem and the bids and asks can change totally independed of the trades. However the ticks problem may effect Bob's stuff. A new thread was created for it. Regarding the ticks, if you study the run of the latest study created for that thread i...

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this is what I got with some test settings on the e-mini. A run on 1 minute bars, 10 second bars and a tick chart run of 10 bars.

bowlesj3

Hi All, I removed the cut and paste. It is all zips now. I made some changes. The stats is a count based upon X number of bars. Status every Minute was to hard for me to verify. It is set to 100 bars. You can change it. The heading indicates your selection now. I turned off the raw report. All seems...

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zipped compressions of the .pla files are available now for both versions of the test code above. Super is doing a larger test of the second one today (tick charts version).

bowlesj3

There are two scripts in this thread that report on what appear to be 3 bugs in MC. Specifically: 1/ Every so often a tick does not get processed by a study when "execute on every tick is check". 2/ BarStatus = 0 does not occur at all. 3/ More often BarStatus = 0 occurs 2 times. I don't know if it i...

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Thanks Super. Unfortunately this code was really rushed. Now I can see things that could be simplified. It is just a quick and dirty report (stuff grabbed from other code and stripped to fit). Maybe in time after TSS fixes the bugs I will clean it up and new MC users could use it to understand BarSt...

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Old Subject: Understanding Ticks command & controlling study execution Start of New Special Note: This thread http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6871 on the very last post, has a document you can download which at the very end has a good short explaination of the ticks reserve word as well a...

bowlesj3

Hi TJ, I actually did that in the end but I was a bit lazy because this function (my binary search function) is called from about 15/20 studies and I didn't want to have to go back and change all the calls.

Thanks anyway,
John.

bowlesj3

One thing that can cause initial confusion with MC's EL is the fact that the TL_new, Arw_New and Text_New commands keep having their Line/arrow/Text removed from the chart on the next tick up until the last tick of the bar when BarStatus = 2 occurs. Therefore you have to ensure that the whatever_New...

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Here is another study that helps understand Intrabarpersist. Notes for trying it: 2/ each print statement has a different marker "Here1 & here2", Here3 and Here4, Here5 and Here6. They are grouped in pairs based upon the if statements. 3/ I indented the print statements such that when you look at th...

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Understanding Intrabarpersist is important when programming MC EL. Specifically understanding what happens with it being on a variable and without it being on a variable. These are studies I used to learn how it works. All studies can be cut and paste out to a new study form and compiled clean for u...

bowlesj3

Is there any hidden system command that a function can use to get the study/indicator name that called it?

Thanks,
John.

bowlesj3

Hi Bob, Here is an improved version of the test with some simple stats. Cut and paste the code into a new study and it should compile. The two reports are in the root directory. The Question marks just after "Ticks Diff" shows the real problem and how often it occurs (I counted this one). The very l...

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Thanks Andrew for getting in on this post. This morning I will be finished a study that counts the number of missing ticks per bar and which gives an hourly stats on it. Like I said earlier, I am not sure it is a bad thing in situations where the user has overloaded MC beyond what can be reasonably ...

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Special update: Post #14 has an improved version of the two binary search scripts but the test script is still in the zip file in this post. Here are two binary search functions. They are in the attached zip files. There is a test study for each of them now. They are very good for situations where y...

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Hi, Learning to add and subtract time with the seconds can be a challenge. Remembering how it works is not that easy either. Once I figured it out I put together this function to document it and make it straight forward. You can use the function or learn from it and extract what you need to do the c...

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Here is a shell sort from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_sort for those of us who do not like the map commands. The pseudocode is an almost perfect EL code match. I tested it and it seems to work. You can cut and paste this for a clean compile and get a clean lineup of comments too. Note: If key...

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Hi Bob, get code that executes on every tick (like I thought it was supposed to.) For sure all traders using MC are going to assume what you have assumed and I too. In time I hope MC can 1/ report the order that workspaces are executed, order that charts are excuted within workspaces and the order t...

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Hey Bob, I have written a simple study to test and hopefully prove that IntraBarPersist does work. It is below. It is a variation on your study that updates a GV in parallel with your study's count but it does not zero the count which has IntraBarPersist associated with it. It will total all day and...

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Hi Bob, Yah, I realize you need live ticks to run my tests. It is too bad this did not come in on Thursday night. I double checked the compile and you can just drop them in, compile, assign them and do the run and go to the C root directory to find the log. I forgot to mention that my first study is...

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It occured to me that my test results are under MC 2.1.999.999. Someone should run the first test code under the latest version to see if the problems with barstatus = 0 and the ticks reserve word are occuring there too. If they are not occuring then it would be interesting to find out if your works...

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Here is a very good test to study. I left intrabarstatus off for a few items. it is run on 10 second bars of the emini ES There are three print statements in the study. The first is a spacer to make it easier to read. The 2nd and 3rd print statements are exactly the same. the "BN = BarNumber;" is st...

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This study shows something interesting about the ticks reserve word on 10 second bars when the "build Volume On" is set to "ticks". If the ticks reserve word is correct then it seems the study is being executed twice on the first tick and sometimes is being skipped on other ticks. I have also notice...

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removed, see next post.

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Hi Bob, I checked the help on this IntraBarPersist Used in variable and array declaration statements, before a variable or array name, to specify that the value of the variable or array elements are to be updated on every tick. If IntraBarPersist is not specified, the value will be updated at the cl...

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Of the more useful aspects to the replay feature [assuming it can replay a multi chart workspace just like a workspace operates on a standard trading day] is this can be used to test studies which can only be tested with a live feed (in other words testing these studies requires that lots of ticks a...

bowlesj3

Thanks Andrew. I guess I should start preparing to try it.

Your email notices of posts I am involved with is strange. It started to work again then it stopped.

bowlesj3

Okay. I guess I asked a very open ended question so I should expect an open ended answer :-) Maybe I will simulate it and get the answer. Not hard to do come to think of it. It would be a set command that trips it and maybe it would return -1. It is an obscure type of error and it could take the pro...

bowlesj3

Has anyone exceeded the GV limit with MC or TS. What happens?
Thanks, John.

bowlesj3

Not a book but a complete sequential read through the MC EL help is a must (2 or three of these actually over a year or so since your needs change with new knowledge and ideas). On my first pass I made up a list of useful commands to try some time. On my second pass I added a few that did not seem u...

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As a little final note on the disappearing lines, at times both lines would disappear and the issue in the thread below explains why. In short, the arrow time was coming back as -1 even though the ID was found for the arrow. Both vertical lines were (sometimes) being placed at a time of -1 (out of s...

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Regarding these two solutions too the "Subchart #2 trend lines not appearing" problem #1 Screen scaling setting with highest and lowest plots included in all studies that require lines on the chart (4 posts above). #2 Set your RSI scale to manual (max 100 and min 0) then set your other studies using...

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A little tip and maybe a bug. I just found out you can use Arw_GetActive and receive the correct ID for the arrow when the command finds the arrow on the chart, but at times when you subsequently get the time for the arrow using arw_GetTime_s the command will come back with a time of -1. So it seems...

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Something of low priority to correct. Up arrows center perfectly on the bar but down arrows are shifted a bit. I guess it is obvious I do this a lot. It often makes me go back and double check to ensure I have the arrow positioned correctly.

bowlesj3

It seems that the FormatDate FormatTime commands that EL has could make all this a lot easier (the functions are already available).

bowlesj3

Yah, I would say there have been some people before us who had their thinking caps on (especially considering the wrapper approach). Note: there is an extremesFC version too with a highestFC/lowestFC and highestbarFC/lowestbarFC too. I think this version rolls the internal table by retaining the val...

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Hi TJ, I was curious about this and took a look at the Highest function itself thinking it makes sense just to modify it. Here is what I found. It calls a function called "extremes". There is another wrapper function called HighestBar which also called "extremes" and it returns the offset instead of...

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In the EL help under "contents" then "text manipulation" are all the commands you need. A full read and study of all of them is obviously needed. 1/ first convert the number to a string 2/ for dates then split the string date into parts which are in the proper order adding the digits which are missi...

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Sounds good Andrew. Thanks for the hard work. Assuming the playback is being used as another word for the replay, is there a user manual kicking around for it (even if it is just the specs given to the programmers which often serves as a good starting point for a user manual)? The reason I ask is I ...

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The stuff you describe Bob sounds pretty complex. I am glad my requirement is much simpler and working okay.

Thanks again,
John.

bowlesj3

Thanks Bob, I am going to read your post a bit later (I am in a bit rushed getting ready for trading). For now I have found a very good reason to keep my studies separate. I have three studies in total using subchart #2. One uses a recalculate often to clear the lines and the other one does not and ...

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Here is another solution using the screen scaling setting rather than user defined scale settings (assuming for some reason you want two separate studies defined in the subchart #2 area of your chart). The two studies need to have a plot 100 and plot zero as shown below and they have to have the sam...

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What is interesting is if you set both the RSI study to scale off screen and the second study (the vertical line study) to scale off screen, it not only screws up the placement of lines on the 2nd study which is based off subchart #2 but it also screws up the line placement of the study which puts t...

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For the purpose of getting your lines to line up in subchart #2 (across studies) my last theory is exactly correct. Set your RSI scale to manual (max 100 and min 0) then set your other studies using this subchart #2 exactly the same way and any lines drawn on the other studies will exactly match the...

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Hi Bob, In my case I am putting a short little vertical line below price in subchart #1 and a second vertical line below RSI in subchart #2 (below if I am going short and above if I am going long). Extending the vertical line would block the price bars or the RSI. The manual scale settings I mention...

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I use plots on one of my RSI charts. The plots run horizontally. I used plots because I could not get the lines to work at that time. I also use plots on all my chart sizes to mark the even 10 units in different color coding.

How old is RSI?

bowlesj3

What does this do TJ? I would think that it puts the line on an angle.

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I managed to get the vertical lines to appear on the RSI. I had to set the Scale Type to "User Defined" and use the values Maximum 100 and Minimum 5. Linear has to be used as well. Every other combination of settings for Scale Type failes to show the lines. Of note, Somehow I got the Subchart #2 to ...

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So what your saying TJ is that if TWS gets that grid which shows it is having a problem, and it is in the process of trying over and over to get connected gain (which it often times does successfully) that the software at IB can determine that the repeat attempts to reconnect are coming through a di...

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If you are trading symbols that tick very quickly only, then if you study all the commands for placing/manipulating text on a chart as well as all the commands for placing/manipulating lines on a chart (not to mention how to send orders directly to your broker from MC) you should be able to program ...

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I guess I should mention that this is a problem if one wants to send key storkes to control this function since there is no way for the sending program to know if the toggle is already correct or not. In my case it was a problem because a study was constantly reverting back to subchart #1 when toggl...

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I think the same way. I have an IB bracket on all trades. If I pass out for some reason the target/stop brackets take care of it. I control the bracket via my software (lines on the chart guide me - lots of bottons I can click here to make the bracket do what I want - anything I want).

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Here is an interesting bug for those who are using a study on subchart #2. I am wondering if anyone else is having the problem and what release you are using. To test to see if you have the bug: 1/ Open up the format studies window (it should say "Format Objects" at the top and your should have the ...

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We learn something every day.

I just checked. There is no TL_SetBegin_Self_S or TL_SetEnd_Self_S. I have the correct commands after all. I guess that is why they work perfectly.

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Actually this is interesting. The following is my command to create the line in subchart #2. LVL_ID[X] = tl_new_self_s(Date,Arw_Active_Time,LineStart,Date,Arw_Active_Time,LineEnd); This gets executed until barstatus = 2 and that is the last time it gets executed for each placement of the line. The l...

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Nop. I just made the change, shut down MC and brought it back up and the same thing happens. It is always the subchart #2 lines of the vertical pairs that does not appear (the subchart #1 line is always visible). This time I put out two of them and checked the properties on both of the subchart #2 l...

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Thanks TJ.

I will put that change in right now and see what happens.

Otherwise if it does not work I will be writing a sendkeys routine on the weekend to quickly do the on and off and subchart #2 reset.

John.

bowlesj3

Regarding the vertical line bug on subchart #2 It just did it again and the line color is orange as per the color setting showing in the list of drawing tools that are suppose to be on that chart. As before the study placed it correctly and the list of drawing tools says it is suppose to be there bu...

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This may be my problem. I have noticed that the line placed on subchart #2 does not move when I grab the right hand scale and adjust the RSI scale. I tried a few things and it screwed up the placement of the line and eventually completely locked up windows. I can't afford that so I brought back the ...

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Okay, I just kicked off the first placement of the line on subchart #2 and as usual the line does not appear during the very first placement of the day. However I have more info here to prove that there is a bug. 1/ My print statement which is directly below the line did get printed. 2/ Even more co...

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This is a bit off topic but I became very aware of it during the process of dealing with the above TL_New problems. What is the theory regarding having to do this when moving trend lines. I seem to remember reading something about this years ago but my recent read through the manuals (like 2/3 years...

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Hi TJ, Actually I said that it is best (NOT To) use IntraBarPersist (generally). The reason is if MC is deleting the line on the next tick after the TL_New command is issued up until barstatus = 2 then you will want the ID zeroed as well just in case (as I was doing) 1/ you are testing for the ID > ...

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The original problem in this thread is verified to actually exist. It is not another bad Line ID deleting the new line created on subchart #2. I made changes to ensure that this was not happening. What is interesting is that every day in the morning (WITHOUT FAIL) I have to turn the study off then o...

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Yes I have also requested that the snap mode be controlled by the tool once it is highlighted either for move or for new placement. It should be a user changable default setting for the tool just like all other characteristics that can have a default for a tool. Also the custom tool bar(S) should id...

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I requested this before It would be even more useful now since I am needing a lineup with subchart 2 as well. The only thing I miss is loosing the cross hair when I highlight a tool I want to move. Specifically arrows which I use extensively. I loose a few seconds every single time I have to move on...

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Hi Super, I never actually had the real time TS. Just EOD way back. The code in the above post which has that "VL_Needed" variable is working for my current study I am working on. Unfortunately I wrote a lot of studies when I first got MC that have TL_New commands buried in very complex code and ins...

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I just fixed the problem of the vanishing lines I am currently having by creating a "VL_Needed" swtich, setting to "Y" where the original TL_New command was being issed and then taking the TL_New command down to where it would not be blocked by any if statements and having it execute on evry single ...

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No, I just applied the price subchart code which I was running last week and this week it is removing the lines if the TL_new command does not occur when barstatus = 2. It is anyone's guess as to why it was not doing this last week. Nothing has changed that I am aware of but obviously something is d...

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I have to laugh at this. There seems to be some sort of inconsistency in this barstatus = 2 thing. I am creating a pair of studies to be applied to price (subchart #1) and RSI (subchart #2). I am creating them in two phases. Both studies were created last week for phase 1 which is fairly simple and ...

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Absolutely. However this is the proper way to think of it. When TSS finally gets a chance (in their priority list) to make these commands available (which I am sure they will) everyone wins including TSS. Maybe TS isn't currently ahead of MC on this issue but I bet the other competitors are.

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To TTS, Because the TL_Persist command does not exist, when a user starts issuing more than one TL_New command per chart in a complex code situation and especially if they have to immediately get the line ID, it appears that the extra code below is what is needed to avoid the mysterious line deletio...

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A simpler test would be to not issue the TL_New command if barstatus = 2. Your line should disappear from the chart. However you need a switch to stop it from creating another line on the next bar. {This code can be used by new users to prove that MC's is deleting Lines, Text, arrows on every new ti...

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The revisit has made the issue more clear to me, make me realize more reasons to request a fix, given me the idea of replacement commands instead of fixing the existing commands and lastly made me realize a way to figure out exactly which commands are creating the problem so if the code is complex (...

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Regarding the problem described in paragraph #1 in the previous post here is how one would find the problem TL_new statement if you do not already suspect one. For every TL_new command that has a related deletion command for that line create a print statement that writes to a file immediately after ...

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START: 2013/Feb/24th Update. Regarding this post, a new [RecoverDrawings = false] parameter, has been created that is inserted in your power langauge scipt to solve this issue. See this link for more details. https://www.multicharts.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11974&p=59597#p58425 END: 2013/F...

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Nop, I guess it is the old bug of the line deletes after all. I just saw one of my other studies put a line on the chart and at exactly that time the new study price line was deleted. So I checked out that study which was written before I was aware of this bug and applied your idea of changing the l...

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disregard this post. I think the problem is actually in the barstatus = 2 command. I suspect it is being turned on too early in the subchart #2 at times and the next tick is deleting the line as normally would only happen if barstatus = 0 or 1. So what I am going to do is store the time_s of the ver...

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Oh well, the time_s[offset] idea does not work. I still have to keep redrawing tjhe line until barstatus = 2 because it does not matter if I am placing the line back a few offsets. It is still a new line regardless. Sure wish they would fix that problem. it slows down the code too much and on the la...

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I meant to do one test... one day when I have the time. That test seems like a good idea. You could write them to a print or file just incase you are busy and don't notice it right away. Anyway, I just learned a few things about EL. First off, the line is getting deleted. I saw it go out then immed...

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Well the barstatus[offset] change worked. If the lines are on the current bar I only get one and if they are back a bit I also only get one. As far as the known deletion problem I will have to review the studies applied to this chart to see if that is possible. Maybe on the weekend if I get time. Th...

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Yah it could be that line delete problem but I am not sure at this point because I have a lot less going on in my 10 second bars chart (my one minute bar chart is a lot busier). I have seen lines deleted wrongly on the main chart. I believe it all occurs because the lines keep getting deleted before...

bowlesj3

No the tl_new_self_s command is in a study. There are no function calls in the study. The line is a short vertical line to mark a bar in the RSI to match a bar in the price chart (the two lines help me line them up visually). In other words I have two studies running that syc with each other. I drop...

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A recalculate does not fix the problem. Also switching the chart from chart #2 to chart #1 and back to chart #2 does not fix it. As stated above, I have to turn the study off then back on again and then it starts working properly (but of course only if I reset it to subchart #2).

bowlesj3

No it appears there is a problem with this function (or there was on MC 2.1.999.999 so if the TSS records of all bug fixes show that they did not fix a bug like this then it will likely be there on an upgrade). The test code pretty much confirms it (see below). It happens not too often (mostly at th...

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Hi TJ I am referring to drawing a line. I have lots of plots on subchart #2 with no problem ever. it is the tl_new_self_s command I am referring too. So if these are consistently drawing for you then that is good. Maybe I can find a bug in my code. That is good info for me. It is fairly simple code ...

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For anyone reading this for the first time, the last few posts starting at "Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:09 pm" show you how to ensure that lines which you place on subchart #2 using TL_New_Self and TL_New_Self_s actually appear. You can skip all the posts on page #1. The "Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:09 pm" post appea...

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It can wait for a window to "pop up" then activate the window etc. I will have to get around to trying this Steven. As mentioned above the key strokes I send to MC require that delays be inserted to wait for it. Even activating the application itself requires a delay be introduced. I am curious how...

bowlesj3

Thanks Steven.
Sounds like it is well work checking into.
John.

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Steven, are you saying that MacroExpress can activate a program (MC for example) and include right click mouse commands to MC after the proper key strokes have been applied to highlight a specific chart. So in other words I could have my program activate MacroExpress and kick it off to execute the c...

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what is AutoIt? does it have a programming language. A database program clould probably with one button click do the export and actually get the file and bring it in and and do something with it by using a loop to test if the file is out there yet. It has to activate the application based upon the n...

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Some database programs (maybe even basic programs) can issue sendkey commands. It can automate almost anything in MC that involves user keystrokes. Pauses have to be introduced however after any command that opens a new form in MC or the sendkey functions will run on ahead of MC and it will not work...

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Hi Andrew, Yes that is actually what I am doing in the areas I am using this technique. However it means the system has to delay 1 minute on the minute bars before it can start up (I have it beep when that minute is complete so I know it is ready). It is not that big a deal really once the person pr...

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This is the forum topic to study,

http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?=&p=8189

get the GV2.0 stuff and study that.

John.

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I have no idea how difficult this would be for TSS but none the less it would be handy at times if one chart could be set to remain zoomed in on specific bars while at the same time the cursor goes back to normal when over other charts allowing for standard operations on those other charts. Thanks, ...

bowlesj3

If your not familiar with the commands to do what I describe below they are all in the MC EL manual under the trend line category. Similar commands exists for arrows and text. If you have room out front of the last bar "format window space to the ight > 0" then you could write code to have a horizon...

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I don't get the upgrade email any more. I also don't get the email for forum updates. Olga suggested I check with my service provided which I did and it appears the problem is in your auto email software (it is automatic I assume).

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Yes cancel with ESC would be good. The current method of going one step back seems pretty good to me.

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I agree. That was my request in one of the posts above. To have an error message when a study's maxbarsback is exceeded so I don't go off thinking my study is working when it is not and don't go off on a long winded debugging session once I finally come to realize that the study is not working (hope...

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You say "during a signal test" and that implies that the print is only executed within an IF test of some sort. That can be the only reason I figure. I would just move the print statement around a bit until it becomes clear as to what is restricting it and why.

bowlesj3

Hi Fernando,

I have MC 2.1.999.999 and ctrl+R does not work but if I highlight the chart and click "the view menu" then "Reload" it does work.

John

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I need to control myself and focus on trading I know this feeling all too well! After I got MC, It took me over 2 years to complete my programming and my various programming projects (some of which I totally dumped as my strategy improved and I narrowed down my market criteria to only the really im...

bowlesj3

It is cool to see a real programmer (and a very advanced one) do what you have done. When I first started using TS this offset thing really took some getting use to since I did not even know it exsisted for a while. I was thinking I would have to do what you are doing and I did not like the offset t...

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yah, I guess it works for me because 1/ my system works really well (or at least as well as I need it to work for my goals) and I don't need to back test because of this plus 2/ I trade a much smaller wave level (about 1 level or 2 levels above scalping) so I don't use the daily bars all that much. ...

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I have a similar study (bunch of them). I have the max bars back set at 1000 and I have the symbol total bars to read from the database set at 100,000. I don't get this error any more. There is a register entry for increasing your max bars back maximum size.

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This is how you can force a study to recalculate using a GV to trigger it. I like your right click idea as another method of doing this. John. if CurrentBar = 1 then Begin Here you define the global variables GV_SetNamedString and GV_GetNamedString MySym = leftstr(getsymbolname,2); Value1 = GV_SetNa...

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Currently you have to do the transfer in MC via text data using the EL collections map command(s) - to and from can be done. MS-Access of course uses a VBA command to pick it up and send it. You can also just have MC print to a file and suck it in to MS-Access of course (input # can be used too). My...

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MC 2.1.999.999 use to bomb on me maybe once every other day and I could bring it up within 30 seconds which was okay with me. It was always as a result of using recalculate and I suspect it was not actually MC but rather activeX. Now it almost never bombs out. Typically goes 2 or 3 weeks before it a...

bowlesj3

Thanks Guys,

I will have to check the CPU usage tomorrow during trading and price some of your suggestions.

John.

bowlesj3

I have a dual core and I often think of moving up to 4,6,8 cores. I am in Canada. Does anyone have any suggestions for this. Anything (heat, noise, availability, costs, etc). I am running XP.

Thanks,
John

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I think the limitation of opening MC only once is a purchase license issue. If you have purchased a license for two you can open two (on another machine most likely since I think some want to have backtesting running on one machine while they are trading live on another machine)

bowlesj3

It would be handy if once the zoom button was pressed we could cancel it without having to initiate a zoom on a chart. Right now once you have started it you have to do a zoom then click the clear zoom to shut if off.

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a while back I had reported to Marina that on my notebook the two tool bars I have out will not hold their position when I highlight a different chart. I found the solution to this. It is to keep the tool bars 100% within the MC area on the screen. If they are outside even a tiny bit they will shift...

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It turns out that for my situation deleting all the arc drawing objects isn't too difficult actually when using the Format objects list, sorting by name and just clicking the remove button over and over. This solution is only good if you want to delete all of one drawing type. For lines, arrows and ...

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All the best Marina. Thanks for your help.
John.

bowlesj3

sounds good. A setlocation command would be handy too.

bowlesj3

I don't quite understand your response TJ.
John

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Hi geektrader, I don't know of such a command as indicator = 0; I am using the commands arw_GetFirst, arw_GetNext, Arw_GetTime, Arw_GetDate, etc to loop through all arrows on a chart, determine the date and time and if older than a parameter set date and time I remove them using the ID number that i...

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It would be handy if, at the very least, EL statements could be created that provided the ability to delete every/any type of tool if they are older than a certain date and time. Currently I run a morning startup routine that keeps my charts clear of old lines, arrows and text. I just found a good u...

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thanks Janus, I guess in that case when I find the time I will check into freebasic first.
John.

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Hi Janus, So (if I understand your test correct) if one program plays your voice on a .wav file saying "Yes" on seconds 1 and 3 and 5 then the other program has your voice saying "No" on seconds 2 and 4 and 6 then on combined playback the user would hear "yes no yes no yes no" on seconds 1,2,3,4,5,6...

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nickG, Regarding my comment above about writting DLLs, the EL_Ref_Guide.pdf in appendix D has the "EasyLanguage Tool Kit Library". At the top it says The EasyLanguage Tool Kit Library is implemented in the form of a dynamic-link library. It provides useful functions that can be called from any user ...

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I have never called a DLL except the GV ones nor written one. You can get documentation on it. I think it is pretty much the same as TS. The database program I run can pick up GV info at a cycle rate of every 1,000th of a second if I want. Normally I do it every second. For me I would do it all thro...

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Hi nickG There is one problem with creating a delay based upon waiting for a subsequent tick to test the end time for the last sound. That would be if the ticks are coming in very slow in which case the delay may be too great. There is a thread on this where a few of us are suggesting that studies c...

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It occured to me that the logic I presented above could be improved such that the FunctionStoreSound(soundnumber, delayseconds) routine could at times avoid having to load the table of delayed sounds. It would do this by first detecting that the current time is greater than the GV_Sounds_Done which ...

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Hi nickG, It just occured to me that I can have text being read from the clipboard buffer and I will hear a beep or other sounds and the text will not be stopped. However if the clipboard buffer has a different set of text put in there immediately the first text read is stopped and it is replaced wi...

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I use a software in my database program that reads text to me. It instructs me throughout the day in many ways and guides me with market notices picked up in the database program with the ultimate source being MC. It works by immediately playing anything that hits the clip board buffer. Often I get ...

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I don't think you will ever get TSS resolving this issue. Here is what you will likely have to do. This is the rough logic to two functions that will be used to create the delay you need. I think I have the rough logic pretty much correct. I don't have time or need to actually do it and test it in E...

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Actually in my case I offset the arrows back a ways but I execute the code once and on the last bar on the chart. In other words, I would never have run into any bugs.

bowlesj3

Hi Janus,

I am not sure what you are doing exactly but I use something like this.

If LastBarOnChart_s then
begin
Arw_New_self_s(date, time_s, high+offset, True);
end;

In my case I am not putting the arrows on subchart #2 so my command is just Arw_New_s

John.

bowlesj3

Nothing actually. Figuring out how to bring it back to normal was a distraction from trading (took a while) so I figured I would just pass on the tip.
John.

bowlesj3

What if we change speed according to time you are holding move left/right buttons? The longer you hold- the higher speed. I noticed such behavior on my blu-ray player yesterday. Hi again Andrew, The other thing about the fact that a lot of programs do what you mention above (maybe it is a standard ...

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I originally had the finger order wrong. It should have been 1 then 3 then 2.

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Before I forget, here is an improvement to the speedup idea to consider if you decide to put it in. The order of ctrl and alt for the first two levels of speed up might be useful to be interchangeable. Here is why. The trader may want to use the ctrl and alt on the right side of the space bar rather...

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Hi Andrew, you were so fast. You beat me on my little extra idea on the post I just did. Yes I have noticed what you describe on certain programs in the past. The only problem is the trader can not slow it down as I described when they see the chart starting to position exactly as they want. The tra...

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This is a better explaination of what I had in mind using an example to make it clear. This would be ideal. The trader has a fair ways to move a 10 second bar chart. They press left arrow and hold it down to go back but realize it is too slow. Without lifting the left arrow they press both ctrl and ...

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Everyone knows that right arrow and left arrow are used to move the chart bar by bar right and left respectively and when these keys are held down this movement progresses at a certain speed. I often wish I could speed this up some how for about 50% of the times I hold down the right and left arrow ...

bowlesj3

HI 2haerim,

When you say, "to go" how do you set the "to go" part. Do you just enter 5 bars (or whatever) some where to be counted down? What happens once th e count down is done?

Thanks,
John.

bowlesj3

I am curious. How exactly do you operate this indicator/tool and what exactly does it tell you. I may have programmed something similar already?

Thanks,
John.

bowlesj3

I read something about this for TS once but it was a long time ago. You are going to have to test to confirm this using print statements but I suspect this is the answer. I think the order charts are processed is the order you created them in the workspace. I think the order the scripts are processe...

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Thanks Andrew. I am curious. How will the data come in. Will a trader be able to pull up their work space off-line as they do now and start the replay without having to do any copy of data out to a special symbol (or separate data source as a copy). If they can go directly from normal off-line viewi...

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Hi Fernando, I am not sure if I would use the term "Automate Myself". LOL. The setup portion of the trade (which for me is analyzing the implied direction of at least one level of wave above the one I am trading) is not practiced on replay. Also the finding of bounce points is not automated (I actua...

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Here is a very interesting idea to consider for your replay TSS. Have a feature that can process a bars worth of data to run the studies if the trader presses a button (that way the studies could run and the trader could control the replay in a stepping action rather than have it run continuous). Th...

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Hi Fernando, Long one. Why I figure there are more discretionary traders. I have no way of knowing for sure but I suspect replay is going to be used mostly by the short-term discretionary traders (not so much by long term). We have discussed our systems privately somewhat, as you know. As you know I...

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This idea is directly related to the “replay cursor instant start” idea I submitted on this thread. http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6342&highlight=replay Here is how the feature would be used. The trader positions the cursor on a selected bar (in my case a bar on the “10-second-bar-chart”...

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If you use ctrl+S to save documents a lot you might accidently use this while the volume control is highlighted and get a mini protected volume control. It locks out your advanced controls completely and the only way to get it back is to press Ctrl+s again. I had to try alt+ and ctrl+ on every lette...

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Thanks Fernando and ABC,

I will contact the provider today and see what can be done.

John.

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Hi Fernando, All the filters that I set up send it to the trash but I see it highlighted and I can check before the trash cleanup which I control manually. So for sure it is not my filters. I have been checking there. I use AVG for anti-virus. They have a special program for spam and I am not runnin...

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Hi, Does anyone happen to know the exact subject line of the email we get when we select a download from the new MC release download site. I don't get this any more and I need to give it to my service provider to see if they are doing some sort of up front filter on my email which I have not authori...

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No problem TJ. This is the type of stuff that should be shared.

bowlesj3

I had just posted a problem I was having with this command set. NewTime_s = DateTime2ELTime_s(ELTimeToDateTime_s(Time_s) - 60); It was not changing the NewTime_s at all. I deleted that prior post and replaced it with this one when I remembered the function I wrote below back in January. It has the p...

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Hi tosk, Now Dr Google found it. Here is the first hit on Renko Chart. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/renkochart.asp It is interesting. I use time as one method of triggering stalls and I find it very good (if proper qualifying rules are applied) so I would never use a Renko Chart. Time alone w...

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Is it anything like "point and figure" charting. There is lots on that in the book "Trading Systems and Methods" by Perry J. Kaufman.

bowlesj3

I haven't heard of this type of chart. I did a google search and did not find it (WOW! stumped Dr Google!!!!). What type of chart is this? Is it misnamed? Just for my own curiosity, where can I research it?

bowlesj3

Thanks Janus, I will probably check into it sometime after checking out the TWS API info.
John.

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Thanks Janus, I will check into both of them. I have two questions. You mentioned windows calls in another post regarding "TWS all time running". I have always wanted to learn about doing windows calls for XP and know zero about it. Are there any good books on how do do this? Do I need to know C at ...

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Regarding the last reserved GV idea, after giving it some thought, I think it would only work if MC had a reserve word built in for defining the GV so MC knows what GV the user has set up for checking. For example, inside the EL code would be a reserve word command called FakeTickGV. It would be a c...

bowlesj3

Thanks TJ. Thats great. I will check it out.
John.

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I am a discretionary trader and thus prefer to have more control than MC can provide. So I have MC set a GV on a specific second within the 10 second bar which is checked in my database program every second and the database program sends the order to TWS and it turns off the GV. In a fast market thi...

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According to the TWS API guide Hi Janus, How did you get the TWS API guide? I emailed about it and they discouraged it. Maybe I emailed the wrong people. The one below would be handy since I execute through my database program rather than MC but do it all via macro control commands. It is not a maj...

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I do not consider this important but I have notice that the methods of moving the chart all work except the bottom one which is in the pattern but not available. Move Chart UP/Down: (over right scale - Space-Bar + Left-Mouse-Button) (over right scale - Control + Left-Mouse-Button) Move Chart Left Ri...

bowlesj3

Hi Janus

Sounds like a very practical and smart approach to me.

John.

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Hi Janus, I don't fully understand your explaination but that isn't really important for this question. Does your trading system do an actual computerized roll over? In other words, do you have the current futures contract on a chart as well as the next futures contract on that same chart and (based...

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Maybe they want you to hold for a short period of time to generate more commissions. Even 3 months is too short for me but not because I hold that long.

At least it is easier than rolling a stone (that is kind of a play on words - not the market)

bowlesj3

What is HSI and why is it so short a contract? I guess at this point, to satisfy 2haerim's question, to adjust the data would require an export to ascii, a home grown program to make the adjustments to the older data then MC would have to bring that adjusted file in via ascii. The kind of home grown...

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Actually this idea of connecting futures quarterly data is interesting. These questions come to mind. Do very many traders actually trade that long a time span? (most are probably day traders or short term swing traders I would think). If they do hold over rollovers what considerations does their sy...

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In any case I'm developing sophisticated techniques to filter such bad spikes in real-time, such as comparing trade with bid and ask of the current and other symbols (via global variables). Gee janus, you just reminded me that I did that way back in 1998 when I was trading stocks. It has been a lon...

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I know Quotecom use to go back and correct their data nightly but that was partially because they were stamping from the servers. It would be interesting to know why an exchange based stamp would have to be changed other than rolling the trade back and actually removing the trade. Otherwise only pri...

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or

View > Reload

Thanks TJ. I never noticed this method and Ctrl+R never did work with MC 2.1.999.999 but this method does and it just fixed my daily bars.

bowlesj3

Qcharts had terrible feed delays with quotecom data (3 to 5 seconds standard and very often up to 3 and 10 minutes at any time without any warning). I often wondered how chart delays would effect my decisions (obviously a 3 minute delay means you stop trading). My bad Qcharts quotecom experiences is...

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Yes, I agree Bob. I think intrabarpersist is really very simple as explained by the test code and print statements in the post below. But when it comes to lining up separate data sources like bid/ask/last things get harder (and even harder to explain). I suspect it is not really intrabarpersist that...

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Another thing about this. I remember Marina saying that currentbid and currentask do not have history (no square bracket backward offset is available). However this does not say that they are not accurate when sought after regardless of whether the study is based off of bid or ask or last price. If ...

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Bob, My need to try this is a ways off but you might want to give this a shot now. It appears that there are questions here that no one can answer yet. The experiment is based upon the assumption that #1,#2 and #3 below are correct and it would require that you have a plot for (ask and bid and last)...

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This is one of the first tests I did to prove it was deleting and redrawing the text until barstatus = 2. I don't have time to study it at the moment. It might save some work for someone wanting to test this themselves. variables: IntraBarPersist DateLoc(0), IntraBarPersist TimeLoc(0), IntraBarPersi...

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