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Postby Thomas Mann » 14 Mar 2008

Hi,
When is a new beta due out ?
Also is there a list of known bugs in the latest ?
Thanks

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Postby konstantin » 15 Mar 2008

I would also like to know that.
I want to decide if I wait for Beta 2 or install Beta 1 now.

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Postby brodnicki steven » 15 Mar 2008

I would also like to know that.
I want to decide if I wait for Beta 2 or install Beta 1 now.


Install Beta1 now, it's easy to upgrade to the new version when it comes. The installer asks you if you want to delete the old version, just delete it and start the installer again to install the new version.
Beta 1 seems pretty stable to me but I'm always eager to try the next version.

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Postby konstantin » 16 Mar 2008

OK Steven, thanks!

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Postby TJ » 16 Mar 2008

I just wish the dancing chart bug is fixed in the coming release.

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Postby brodnicki steven » 16 Mar 2008

I just wish the dancing chart bug is fixed in the coming release.


Just compress or expand the bar spacing 1 click for now-
I hope they fit it soon too.

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Re: new beta

Postby Andrew Kirillov » 17 Mar 2008

Hi,
When is a new beta due out ?
Also is there a list of known bugs in the latest ?
Thanks


It should be released this week. We apologize for the delay.

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Postby Andrew Kirillov » 17 Mar 2008

I just wish the dancing chart bug is fixed in the coming release.

The dancing chart will not be fixed - we have no idea how to replicate it.

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Postby Andrew Kirillov » 17 Mar 2008

I just wish the dancing chart bug is fixed in the coming release.


Just compress or expand the bar spacing 1 click for now-
I hope they fit it soon too.


Could you make screenshot of before/after?

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Postby Geoff » 17 Mar 2008

Andrew,

It is possible to work around the problem by setting the Y-price scale to manual. When it is automatic it sometimes switches/alternates between 2 values as each tick comes through causing the size of the right margin to change. Then when the next bar is created it goes back to normal. I don't think it would be possible to take screen shots to demonstrate this as it is a motion effect.

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Postby RobotMan » 17 Mar 2008

Geoff is correct. The number of significant digits changes for the output of the display on each tick. When the "Y" axis is set to auto it tries to compensate in real time every tick. I have tried to use a rounding function on some of my outputs, but sometimes, for reasons unknown, I notice the "Y" axis go from 2 sig digits to several and then back to 2 again every other tick until the bar ends. I find it very exciting, especially when I am sleepy.

Hope that helps,
Bob Perry
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Postby brodnicki steven » 17 Mar 2008

I just wish the dancing chart bug is fixed in the coming release.


Just compress or expand the bar spacing 1 click for now-
I hope they fit it soon too.


Could you make screenshot of before/after?


If the chart is "dancing" (jerking left and right) increasing or decreasing the bar spacing will stop it. It's like the chart goes into oscillation.
I'd have to do a video capture to show you, maybe I'll try to do that later this week if I have time.
It is an annoying bug.

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Postby mojotrader » 18 Mar 2008

I just wish the dancing chart bug is fixed in the coming release.

The dancing chart will not be fixed - we have no idea how to replicate it.


I don't know about dancing charts, but i have seen dancing indicators. This problem seems to occur when indicators scaled to screen bump up against the top or bottom sides of the indicator sub window during bar creation. When this happens the indicator and indicator scale jumps up/down until the bar completes. I usually resolve this problem with a user defined scale for the indicator. For example stochastics have a range between 0 and 100. If you don't define a scale they auto adjust as new bars are created/printed and may cause the dancing indicator problem. As another example, I've seen macd scales change from 2 to 6 decimal places causing the entire window to jump. This is really annoying and can only be resolved by fixing the macd scale.

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Postby TJ » 19 Mar 2008

Geoff is correct. The number of significant digits changes for the output of the display on each tick. When the "Y" axis is set to auto it tries to compensate in real time every tick. I have tried to use a rounding function on some of my outputs, but sometimes, for reasons unknown, I notice the "Y" axis go from 2 sig digits to several and then back to 2 again every other tick until the bar ends. I find it very exciting, especially when I am sleepy.

Hope that helps,
Bob Perry
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is there an easy way to blanket define all var to 2 sig digits?

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Postby Marina Pashkova » 19 Mar 2008

We have studied the problem with the dancing charts and are planning to fix it.

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Postby TJ » 19 Mar 2008

Andrew,

It is possible to work around the problem by setting the Y-price scale to manual. When it is automatic it sometimes switches/alternates between 2 values as each tick comes through causing the size of the right margin to change. Then when the next bar is created it goes back to normal. I don't think it would be possible to take screen shots to demonstrate this as it is a motion effect.

Regards,
Geoff


I have asked for a "real" manual Y-axis before... for another reason.

On recent high volatility market, it is upsetting to see the scale changes on you without notice... your trading risk increased without you realizing it.

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Postby TJ » 19 Mar 2008

Geoff is correct. The number of significant digits changes for the output of the display on each tick. When the "Y" axis is set to auto it tries to compensate in real time every tick. I have tried to use a rounding function on some of my outputs, but sometimes, for reasons unknown, I notice the "Y" axis go from 2 sig digits to several and then back to 2 again every other tick until the bar ends. I find it very exciting, especially when I am sleepy.

Hope that helps,
Bob Perry
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it worked !!!

when you see your charts dancing... instead of increase/decrease the bar width... you should check to see which of your offending indicators is making the switch between sig dig. Then click on the Y-scale to adjust that scale slightly. This will "manually" define the Max and Min of that indicator.
The dancing will stop !

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Postby sylfvdk » 21 Mar 2008

Is new beta still going this week, delayed?

Thanks
Victor

PS. Just to plan my time, no rush

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Postby Andrew Kirillov » 21 Mar 2008

The dancing effect has been identified and will be fixed in the release version.

Beta 2 is due this weekend.

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Postby TJ » 21 Mar 2008

The dancing effect has been identified and will be fixed in the release version.

Beta 2 is due this weekend.

Fantastic !

Thanks you !

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Postby TJ » 26 Mar 2008

The dancing effect has been identified and will be fixed in the release version.
Beta 2 is due this weekend.

The charts still dance... but stopped after approx 30 seconds.

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Postby Marina Pashkova » 26 Mar 2008

The charts still dance... but stopped after approx 30 seconds.


Let us know if the problem persists.

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Postby Marina Pashkova » 26 Mar 2008

The dancing effect has been identified and will be fixed in the release version.
Beta 2 is due this weekend.

The charts still dance... but stopped after approx 30 seconds.


I have to apologize for misinforming you. The dancing charts effect will be fixed in the release. This fix was never planned for beta.

Sorry again.


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