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Automated Trading Brokers

Postby tony » 06 Feb 2014

I was curious what brokers people are using for automated trading? There are a lot of options out there but some become extremely expensive whereas Interactive Brokers is in-expensive but also has some serious connectivity issues at times.

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby MAtricks » 06 Feb 2014

I've tried most.. IB is by far the worst for auto-trading. Any broker that supports Rithmic seems to be the most stable.

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Postby tony » 06 Feb 2014

Thanks -

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby t-rader » 07 Feb 2014

Been using Lmax since last July and am really happy with them. Fast order execution and good fills.

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby MAtricks » 07 Feb 2014

Is LMAX still not excepting US clients? I really wanted a FX account with those guys..

Tony,

Also check out my post about brokers if you haven't already. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45346&hilit=broker+decision

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby tony » 07 Feb 2014

Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I'll check out your info as well MATricks. Curious what you guys pay for the API if any charges? Looks like my client wants to use TT and their API is pricey but they need to clear through a few select firms and TT allows them to connect to them.

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby MAtricks » 07 Feb 2014

With Rithmic, there's no cost for data nor the API.

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby tony » 07 Feb 2014

Is LMAX still not excepting US clients? I really wanted a FX account with those guys..

Tony,

Also check out my post about brokers if you haven't already. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45346&hilit=broker+decision
Just read this in detail. What a generous post you put together. Very insightful. I'm baffled about IB as well. Thank you -

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby tony » 08 Feb 2014

MATricks, one more question for you if I may. I originally liked IB because I use OCO orders and like how they are native with them. But IB appears to be the only broker that this is the case. Do you use OCO orders? If so, in fast moving markets has this impacted performance based on latency of getting the order to the exchange in time? Thank You -

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby MAtricks » 08 Feb 2014

My server is very budget friendly and I'm working with a 1-2ms round trip from the exchange and back. I've never had an issue... if you're trading manually, you'll never be fast enough for the OCO option to affect you.

Through all of my trials, I've always wondered why there wasn't a connection to a broker/data feed that was relatively bug-free. I found it with Rithmic.. IB was the scariest autotrading experience I've ever had. Its doable, but if everyone understood the ease of other options.... For me, THIS has an incredibly higher value than any order routing abilities.

I'm bored with a Rithmic based broker.. and that's a good thing.

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby JoshM » 08 Feb 2014

As a sidenote:
MATricks, one more question for you if I may. I originally liked IB because I use OCO orders and like how they are native with them. But IB appears to be the only broker that this is the case. Do you use OCO orders? If so, in fast moving markets has this impacted performance based on latency of getting the order to the exchange in time? Thank You -
Zaner and Webank also offer native OCO support (see this page). The wiki page Order Types might also be relevant for discussing native order types.

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Re: Automated Trading Brokers

Postby tony » 08 Feb 2014

Thanks for all the feedback everyone. My final issue with IB before calling it a day (and fortunately was in simulated mode) is I had MC send an order to buy, IB rejected the order. MC sent the order again when conditionals were met. This time IB filled the order. After I went flat, IB then "found" the prior order it had "rejected because it could not be found" and filled me, now I was long when I should have been flat. I've also had instances where my original OCO order never filled and IB never wrote back to MC. The list can go on. And I agree with MAtricks, stay far away from IB.


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