MultiCharts: Trading Software for Automated Trading and Backtesting

trader39

Thanks! Any ETA on this?

trader39

I am running Multicharts Version 14.0 Release (Build 21357)

trader39

IQ Feed has a stable 64 bit Beta client version (Version 6.2.0.15) that is much faster than its legacy 32 bit version. However, when I install this IQ Feed on my computer and attempt to run Multicharts, Multicharts ignores it and tries to reinstall an old 32 bit version of Multicharts. 64 bit IQ Fee...

trader39

Running 14.0 Release build 20935. I recently switched to ESignal as my datafeed on one computer and found to my distress that US stocks were not collecting historical pre-market (before 9:30 Eastern) or after hours (after 4:00 PM Eastern) tick or tick based data such as seconds. This problem was pre...

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I have arranged the monitors vertically and it is not a problem then. To replicate the issue you need two UHD displays each with 3840 pixels x 2160 pixels. Then set them both up in landscape mode, side by side, so that the total desktop is 7680 pixels x 2160 pixels. With this configuration, multicha...

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I tested the vertical display configuration and it solves the problem, so this is no longer an urgent issue for me.

trader39

Just replaced my monitors with two 3840X2160 UHD displays for a total display area of 7680X2160 pixels. I spent hours setting up my windows in the ideal location, and carefully saved the layout as both a workspace and a desktop. When I reload either the workspace or desktop I find the windows are ov...

trader39

Thanks. Unrestricted symbol link groups is a feature worth waiting for, although its current absence makes PC selection more difficult.

trader39

Do you still expect version 13 with better linking functionality/ability to link more than 14 symbols on a PC to release this quarter?

trader39

Thank you! I was worried about the authorization servers and am now reassured.

trader39

The Russian government is apparently planning to disconnect from the global internet, at least for a test: https://www.zdnet.com/article/russia-to-disconnect-from-the-internet-as-part-of-a-planned-test/ Does Multicharts have a plan to assure that its customers can continue to verify and operate Mult...

trader39

When do you expect version 13 release?

trader39

I posted this last night as a new topic but just found the previous thread on this so I am re-posting. It appears that the current version 12 of multicharts is still limited to 14 symbol link groups and if multiple instances of multicharts are used the symbol links still change across all the instan...

trader39

I am having exactly the same problem with IQFeed data. I hope a fix is available soon. Build from minutes is not a viable option when one has thousands of symbols in a scanner, as I do.

trader39

Thanks. Please let me know when a workaround becomes available.

trader39

With MC 8.8 the data queue was shown by default in the lower right just to the left of the current time. Usually it would read 0q/0s, but when it did not it provided a useful indication of potential lagging. I do not see the dta queue in its regular position in Version 9.1? Is it somewhere else? Or ...

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Up through at least version 8.8 of Multicharts, the symbol link groups would not extend across different instances of multicharts, so that essentially unlimited symbol link groups were available by reusing the same link color in different instances of MC. However, after just now upgrading to the lat...

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In the last versions of MC64, volume charts are presenting at most 10 to 15 ticks per trade even if the trade is 100 x or more the volume increment; leading to large trades being underplotted by orders of magnitude. This is a critical issue because large trades that are 100x or more the norm are exa...

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Let me register a strong vote in favor of this feature. I tried to vote on the feature page, however my vote was not registered for some reason. I have been struggling with toggling the visual order of my studies for complete visibility for some time...this is a far better solution. One of the great...

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It's great that you are now supporting milliseconds. Can you please provide a use example for millisecondsfromdatetime? I am not clear on what to place into the one parameter this function requires and there is no documentation in the keyword alphabetical index other than to say "reserved for future...

trader39

Do you have an estimated release date for this beta? In the meantime can I revert to the earlier IQ Feed? What is the procedure for doing so?

trader39

(1) The issue only seems to occur with the latest (5.0.0.11) IQ Feed client. An older machine of mine that still runs 4.9.03 does not experience it. This is the new IQ Feed client that is supposed to provide 5 millisecond time stamps, but I am willing to downgrade the IQ Feed client if you can expla...

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Also I just noticed on the multicharts beta forum that IQ feed is now supporting 5 millisecond time stamps. Would this problem disappear if I upgraded to your latest beta which supports sub-second intervals? I generally am not a first adopter, but would be happy to be if it would solve this bug in t...

trader39

Do you have an estimated time when this will be fixed? If it will be more than a few days I will have to look at an alternative data feed..., despite prefering IQ Feed for both cost and data quality.

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Attached please find a QMD file for today, with the extension again changed to "txt" so the bulletin board would accept it. Also please find the corresponding screen shot. Note the problem is completely reproduceable...it is reflected in all symbols that I have tested in premarket from the point of ...

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Here is the QMD file for today. You will note a big gap in the data from 7:52:33 am to 9:06:32 am. It is during this data gap period that erroneous 16:00 trade times were being reflected on the chart I previously sent you. I believe you would see something similar in QM while the 16:00 trade time pl...

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After the market open the incorrectly time stamped data disappears from the chart, leaving a gap.I will try to send a qmd archive later today after the market close, and again tomorrow morning when the issue recurs tomorrow.

trader39

I am finding that in the last week or so IQfeed charts post the wrong time in pre-market when loaded in pre-market. Data Manager simply fails to record the incoming trade entries, but charting records them and displays them with all trades time stamped 16:00! Please see the attached screen shots. Pl...

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The XMAs on data 2 calculate during the regular session, they stay unchanged during pre and post market. Showing them unchanged in pre- post- market is fine.

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Here is an annotated screenshot with simplified demo code and workspace attached as well. The screenshot illustrates the post-market session today, but exactly the same problem occurs in premarket; the indicator simply refuses to calculate until the market opens, at which time all the intervening va...

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I run my most of my charts on stocks with all sessions (eg 24/7) data as 5 min bars in data 1, and regular session (ie default) data as 5 min bars in data 2. My study calculates some exponential averages(among other things) on data 1 and some on data2. During regular session (from 9:30 to 4:00 New Y...

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Yes, I have tried that. It does not seem to make much difference. My indicator uses High/Low bars to paint channels (eg a 90 min channel) in the background across most or all of the screen. Any click in that area (which is frequently the whole screen) and the indicator tends to be selected. Again, I...

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My indicators cover much of the screen, and I am finding that the the click to select functionality frequently selects an indicator when I am just trying to click on the chart to scroll. Even worse, it may select an indicator when I am trying to move a stop or limit line in chart trading. Is there a...

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I am experiencing the same issue (I run tick charts extensively on MC64) and I view it as a critical problem during periods of high activity. Sometimes with complex indicators applied to the chart and multiple tick charts running the lag can extend to 30 secs or more, even if there is extra CPU on t...

trader39

I just tried this (my month with Esignal was up) but it only gives the "I have a data feed Subscription"(which I no longer do) option. Please advise how to activate the DTN IQ Feed trial.

trader39

Is there a way to opt in for the DTN IQ Feed trial AFTER 8.5rc has been installed?

I would like to begin the trial as my monthly cycle date for ESignal comes up. Unfortunately I have already installed 8.5rc without selecting the trial or to be asked about it again.

trader39

The problem only appears when you run the chart online for a few minutes during active trading without modifying it or clicking on it. As the chart scrolls to accommodate new data on the right, the gaps appear on the left.

trader39

Yes, bar spacing is 0.5 pixels in both cases. I have used a range of bar spacings from 0.5 to 2.0 pixels and it makes no difference.

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PlotOverlay.zip I have until recently been using MC64 Beta2 (version 8.0.5203.202) with only minor problems, but recently upgraded to the MC64 release version on one of my 5 PCs. Unfortunately I discovered an easily reproducible problem in displaying overlaid plots during online operation in MC64re...

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When more than 65 lines are present, the scanner will not allow additional instruments to be added by typing directly in the instrument column. Rather the more cumbersome "insert instrument" procedure must be used. Also, with more than 65, the last instrument on the list is not numbered even when "n...

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The RecalcLastBarAfter() function does not seem to work in studies applied to scanner windows in MC64 beta 2. This is critical when the scanner is loaded with long time frame data (e.g. daily), because otherwise "update on every tick" must be selected in order to view updates more frequently than th...

trader39

I believe the problem only occurs with studies attached to the chart, and primarily at the time of market open. I will try the log file disabling to see if it helps and then address the follow on steps. Thanks!

trader39

I also forgot to mention, the PCs with solid state drives run Windows 7; the SCSI systems run Windows XP64.

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I forgot to mention, but I am using Global Variables with the 64 bit version of ELCollections.dll. (I was doing this with the prebeta version of MC64 as well, with no problems).

trader39

I am running on five computers, three with solid state drives, two with SCSI, with either ESignal or IQ Feed as data feed. I am using a wide range of stock symbols. (eg AMRN, LVS, GRMN, CIE, MAKO; many others). All computers have at least 4 cores (one has 6) and run 4 to 8 or more 200 volume and/or ...

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MC64 Beta2 seems sluggish versus pre-beta. Just installed MC64 Beta2 after running the MC64 pre-beta version happily since January 15th. I am finding charts lagging when they did not before, and more disturbing, there is sometimes no indication that a chart may be lagging unless I compare the last p...

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Just installed MC64 Beta2 after running the MC64 pre-beta version happily since January 15th. I am finding charts lagging when they did not before, and more disturbing, there is sometimes no indication that a chart may be lagging unless I compare the last price to my quote platform. Is there a way t...

trader39

What compiler (preferably available on line and free, or for a free trial; and either C, C++, or Java) do you recommend to write MC64 dll's? I understand that Visual Studio is not compatible. What is both compatible and recommended?

trader39

I note that Visual Studio 2010 is available for free 30 day trial download so that would be an option, if you recommend it, although it does not seem to support Java. (Please advise whether to run it in 32 or 64 bit mode if you do recommend it).

trader39

Great.

What (preferably free and available online) compiler (Java or C or C++) would you recommend to write MC64 compatible dlls? I presume a 64 bit compiler is required, but I note that cc1plus.exe *32 (presumably 32 bit?) is active in the task manager when MC64 power language scripts are compiled.

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https://developer.TS.com/documents/EasyLanguage_Extension_SDK.pdf indicates that tskit.dll should be imported to write dlls. However that is a 32 bit dll, which presumably is incompatible with MC64. Do you have a tskit.dll substitute for writing 64 bit dlls, or alternatively, suggestions on how to w...

trader39

Great, I can't wait!

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My final screenshot shows the Esignal symbol monitor also locked into the incorrect 7221 trade size. Clearly symbol monitor does not reference the correct field for after hours volume, but the native Esignal application does. MC needs to reference the same after hours volume field as the native Esig...

trader39

The previous post showed the correct tick volume as shown in the Esignal native charting application.

This shows the incorrect volume in MC for SPY over the same period, frozen at 7221 per tick.

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I have researched and doumented this issue further with three additional screenshots reflecting after hour trading for SPY today 12/20. After hours ESginal symbol monitor shows an incorrect frozen volume for SPY of 7221 for every tick. MC picks up the same incorrect field and displays the same incor...

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Also, you tested the symbol INHX on a low volume day. There has never been an issue with volume unless it is relatively high. INHX was an issue several days ago because of extraordinarily high volume due to breaking news; it was not an issue on the 19th.

trader39

The volume is displayed differently in the ESignal application. Are you saying that MC is unable to display volume in the same way as the ESignal application?

trader39

Here is the 10000v chart in MC, with the volume greatly overstated before 9:30. Multiple reloads were required to (ultimately) correct this, and it never worked in real time with correct volume as would be needed for trading.

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I have noted the problem is especially severe with volume bars, sometimes not even correctable with reloading. Here is a volume chart comparison with SPY shown in ESignal 10000v bars first.

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Here is the volume for SPY for the same post market intervals today displayed using ESignal's own charting program. As you can see, the true volume displayed be Esignal is an order of magnitude or more lower.

trader39

It is an MC problem. The chart is correctly displayed when ESignal's own charting program is used, even when the data is collected in real time (not reloaded). Attached are minute bars for the stock symbol "SPY" collected after the market close today (post market) and displayed with volume using MC ...

trader39

This is also a problem with post-market (after the close at 4:00pm) trading of stocks with unusually high volume when ESignal is used as the data feed.

trader39

I am running 7.4 beta build 4846

trader39

I have found that preopening volume (ie volume prior to 9:30 AM eastern) for stock symbols in ESignal is frequently overstated by as much as 60x. This typically occurs for stock symbols which, because of breaking news or other developments, are reporting true volume upwards of 50,000 shares per minu...

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The attached chart illustrates the problem and the fact that it is an ongoing defect. This is for the stock symbol POT, which I first loaded a chart for yesterday, and has daily bars in the top panel and hourly bars in the lower panel. There is no daily bar for yesterday as you can see. It is not se...

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INHX is a stock. I have not enabled collect daily data without plotting, however I have had the chart open most days. The missing day issue seems to occur most for Wednesdays and Thursdays...in other words one or the other of these days is often missing after a week of trading.

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No I have not changed any symbol settings or any other PC or software setup. The problem is not that easy to reproduce since you must collect data on a symbol for several days for it to appear. I have found reload may work to correct the problem after the day is over, but never intraday. Before vers...

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Apparently a change was made to the treatment of Esignal daily bars in the 7.4 Beta version so that they would update more rapidly. Unfortunately the new code also seems to cause recent daily bars to be missed quite frequently when the same daily chart is reused over multiple days. For example, many...

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I also would note that the bar cap per day, each and every day, is EXACTLY 1,000,000 bars; which indicates it is coded somewhere as an express limit. That is why I asked for the registry entry I could change to raise this cap. I need something upwards of 3,000,000.

trader39

It does not crash your software. In fact it runs in real time (I have very fast overclocked PCs), without dropping any bars. The issue arises when I then try to reload the chart for backtesting and analysis.

trader39

Also, use 24 hour sessions. With this symbol, default sessions may serve as a workaround and mask the underlying problem.

trader39

This can be easily seen if you construct a chart of ES #F (Esignal symbol format) or ES U1 with 1 contract bars.

trader39

The issue is not the maximum bars per chart but the maximum bars per DAY or trading session. I already have HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\TS Support\MultiCharts\Shaper\MaxBarsCount at 20,000,000; the limit of 1,000,000 bars per DAY (ie trading session) remains regardless.

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There appears to be a 1,000,000 bar limit on bars per trading interval (i.e. per day of trading). Some very active symbols can currently exceed this, resulting in the first part of each day being dropped from the chart when it is reloaded. What registry entry do I change to correct this?

trader39

Fine. Hopefully I can get some to you by tomorrow.

trader39

Yes that is correct. It is especially obvious on a high volume stock such as GOOG which is reporting earnings tonight. What is the best procedure for sending you logs? What log files do you need?

trader39

The quotes do not stop coming. Rather the closing print is just repeated over and over again as if it is a new quote. Numerous repetitions of the closing quote are then saved in quote manager until the chart is reloaded, at which time the correct after hours quotes are subsitituted from the hostory ...

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IQ Feed does not update in real time after regular trading hours (for example after 4:00 PM eastern time for US stocks). Instead the charts post the 4:00PM close repeatedly during the after hours trading period. When the chart is reloaded, the correct data is secured from the history server but of c...

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In a strange phenomenom that becomes more pronounced as indicators become longer, the Power Language editor seems to take a noticeable period of time to add or remove comment braces (i.e. { or } ). There is no comparable lag for any other component. It is as if Power Language were trying to parse th...

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I am eager to experiment with this and will gladly post results. However I do not know how to get PowerLanguage to reference the copy of GlobalVariable.dll in the ProgramFiles\TS 8.1 (build 3159) directory rather than the copy in the ProgramFiles\TS Support\Multicharts directory. Please advise how t...

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Is it possible to use the same globalvariable.dll file as TS running on the same computer, allowing communication with TS features not yet implemented in multicharts, such as Radar Screen? If not, is there some other workaround for this?

trader39

I suspect the reason TS is not cached is that TS has its own cache, so caching TS data would result in double caching

trader39

PS they are tying up 8.5 GB of disk space

trader39

MC appears to have placed 126643 .dmp files on my computer.

Can I safely delete these?

trader39

The version number is displayed on the same information window as the registration code and licensee. These also do not delete when a new version is installed. Could it be that MC is accidentally saving and displaying the old version number the same way it saves the registration code through an unin...

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I am seeing this on all computers tested alex. I find that I cannot get the displayed version number of MC to change from 1.90.442.1230 even when I uninstall and reinstall the latest version from your website; however the one I started with was a new computer with only 1.90.449.1165 ever installed o...

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I was running the same version Alex. I am testing now on different PCs to see if that makes any difference.

trader39

This is an area where having a multicore PC may really help. I use <1 pixel spacing routinely and it has never presented a problem. One core handles the drawing and another the incoming data and analytics. I also have high end graphics cards (NVDA 7800GT), which may contribute.

trader39

I have now tested this with TS feed as well as Esignal. The data source has no effect. Also, I tested quite a few different active symbols, including AAPL, SPY, QQQQ, and GOOG. The symbol chosen also seems to make no difference.

trader39

This is such big bug I am surprised no one has noticed it before. It can be illustrated with a very simple example - load 40 days of 5 minute data in data1 and 40 days of daily data in data2. Then try to plot the default ( 9 period) moving average on data1. It will not plot; at least not on my confi...

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I have tested MC on XP 64 some over the weekend with the arrival of my dual boot machine. MC seems to run very smoothly on XP64 off line but starts having trouble with a real time data feed, especially when you try to change the symbols in a chart on the fly with live data coming in. I have reverted...

trader39

Fwiw I have not had your problem. Make sure you were not trying to get weeks worth of minute bars, that could explain it.

trader39

Maybe it is something special about the video I am using, but I see no difference between SetPlotWidth(1,0); and SetPlotWidth(1,1); in the width of plots. I have to go to SetPlotWidth(1,2); to broaden a line, and I feel I am losing access accordingly to the intermediate thickness.

trader39

I am ordering my computers dual boot XP64 XP Pro so that I can use MC under 64 with a fall back path fwiw

trader39

The cross cursor seems to default to 50% grey. Since this is the background color I like for my charts it essential disappears when I apply it.

How do I change the cursors color?

trader39

Does MC work through Direct X? I am trying to decide whether a new set of video cards with Direct X support is worth the investment to speed up MC, or whether I can use an old Matrox QID card without losing performance.

Please advise.

trader39

I have not done any benchmarking on array speed but I use them extensively and would love any code improvements that improve execution speed when arrays are involved.

trader39

I have tried 1.9 on various PCs with 1 to 4 cores. I find the major benefit of a multicore system is encountered when more than one symbol or study is tracked at once. There is relatively little speed pickup when a single study is posted to single symbol, even for a relatively complex study.

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I recommend that users check some of the individual posts below re bugs in this release before installing. My feeling is that version 1.90.440.760 is very buggy and many users would be happier staying with their existing release. In particular, 1.90.440.760 will not successfully compile many previou...

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I found NONE of my custom studies would compile in version 1.90.440.760. Rather I just get a "compiled with errors" error message and no object code results. Please fix this as soon as possible. I have had relatively few problems with intermediate build 428.1091, and will return to using it for now,...

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One example of the exact code I tried was: Vars:X(0,Data3); This one line PowerLanguage study generates the error message referenced above when applied to any and all charts with two data series present I have tried. Most recently I tried a chart with BRCM 1 min in Data1 and AAPL 1 min in Data2. Ple...

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Whenever I assign a variable to DataX, using the variable assignment statement Var:TestVar(0,DataX) where X is a number greater than 1, the PowerLanguage compiles but generates an error which reads: The instruction at "0x When the study is applied to a chart, even though series "X" is present on the...

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I find that the Format Symbol Style tab width controls have no effect on the candlestick up and down (i.e. candlestick body) components. Only the wick component width control has any effect. This problem is present in the latest Beta as well as the earlier versions. This is a particularly critical p...

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Study values seem to appear in the right margin by default. I find this makes it hard to read the scale. Is there any way to turn them off??

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Testing the latest Beta, I cannot get even simple canned studies such as Volume, to display with semi-log X Axis. In other words, checking semi-log in the format studies/scaling menu under axis type has no apparent effect.

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